Random Thoughts

[Milkster]

I actually don't see any canon material indicating Wolverine is bisexual, though I suppose in what, like 150 years of life now he's probably at least thought about it. His son Daken definitely is though.

Lists I've found online do include alternate versions of Wolverine (like the Ultimate Wolverine and AoA Weapon X and their relationships with Jean Greys, the Exiles Wolverine and Madame Hydra Sue Storm), plus taking a lot of implied trysts like Spider-Woman, Captain Marvel, Squirrel Girl, and Black Cat and saying they definitely happened.

https://screenrant.com/xmen-cyclops-wolverine-moon-sex/

https://www.advocate.com/arts-entert...-kiss-latest-x

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMdrdaUeB/

Also it appears they mean the 616 universe Wolverine

[Tokitoki]

I assume at least one of those links talks about Hickman's X Men that started last year and how Wolverine, Cyclops, and Jean are in a relationship together. I'm not sure it explicitly says Wolverine and Cyclops are involved with each other?

[Zealot]

https://screenrant.com/xmen-cyclops-wolverine-moon-sex/

This article is built entirely on one joke line in one panel of one comic and admits itself that it's all speculation.

https://www.advocate.com/arts-entert...-kiss-latest-x

From that article:

X-Treme X-Men, the Marvel comic featuring well-known alternate versions of iconic characters from parallel dimensions, had implied for some time that the bisexual demigod Hercules and James “Logan” Howlett, the Wolverine of another universe, once had a romantic relationship.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMdrdaUeB/

Literally just a guy saying names, several of which I already mentioned are only speculated at and never confirmed in the comics, and his Cyclops comment is likely based on the same material as the first link.

Also it appears they mean the 616 universe Wolverine

At least one of these three opens with a paragraph explaining how they don't.

Entirely possible there's a depiction some time in the future of the genuine 616 Wolverine explicitly in a romantic relationship with a man, but to date such a thing does not exist.

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[NynJa]

Milkster being retarded, must be a day ending in day.

[Milkster]

This article is built entirely on one joke line in one panel of one comic and admits itself that it's all speculation.



From that article:





Literally just a guy saying names, several of which I already mentioned are only speculated at and never confirmed in the comics, and his Cyclops comment is likely based on the same material as the first link.



At least one of these three opens with a paragraph explaining how they don't.

Entirely possible there's a depiction some time in the future of the genuine 616 Wolverine explicitly in a romantic relationship with a man, but to date such a thing does not exist.

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Fair. This was information I thought was accurate from more avid marvel comic book readers. Feels like they won't let the more masculine presenting mutants be anything other than straight. I wonder the blowback that would happen if he were bi. I remember the nerds were upset when Bobby got married to a man.

[Tokitoki]

Did Dawn of X start two years ago now? Jesus.

[Zealot]

See I wasn't upset by that, I was upset that they made Bobby gay when it would have made a lot more sense for him to be bi.

But as far as canonical bi 616 characters in Marvel go, there's still Loki, Hercules, Noh-Varr, Star Lord, Kitty Pryde, Shatterstar, Rictor, Destiny, Mystique, Black Cat, Betsy Braddock, Daken, Valkyrie, Speed, Mercury, Hellstrom (both Daimon and Satana), Prodigy, Nico Minoru, Lightspeed, Moondragon, Beetle (Janice Lincoln, not Abe Jenkins), Jennifer Kale, Stacy-X, Pixie, Spymaster, Gypsy Moth, and maaaaaybe Storm. Probably a lot more but those are the ones whose names I know.

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[Rhyis.]

i dont remember wolverine being part of any relationship outside of pining after jean

[Rhyis.]

cyclops and his one eye always won the day

[Demosthenes]

See I wasn't upset by that, I was upset that they made Bobby gay when it would have made a lot more sense for him to be bi.

But as far as canonical bi 616 characters in Marvel go, there's still Loki, Hercules, Noh-Varr, Star Lord, Kitty Pryde, Shatterstar, Rictor, Destiny, Mystique, Black Cat, Betsy Braddock, Daken, Valkyrie, Speed, Mercury, Hellstrom (both Daimon and Satana), Prodigy, Nico Minoru, Lightspeed, Moondragon, Beetle (Janice Lincoln, not Abe Jenkins), Jennifer Kale, Stacy-X, Pixie, Spymaster, Gypsy Moth, and maaaaaybe Storm. Probably a lot more but those are the ones whose names I know.

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Wait 616 adult Bobby is gay? I remember the teen version being told he was gay by teen Jean. Adult bobby came out?

[Zealot]

Wait 616 adult Bobby is gay? I remember the teen version being told he was gay by teen Jean. Adult bobby came out?

Yeah, he came out when his younger self confronted him.

So the original plan back in the 80s had been for Iceman to be gay, but the storyline got interrupted before he came out and then never picked up again. In the 20+ years before they addressed it again, he had one relationship with a woman named Opal that could definitely have been a queer-coded beard situation (there were major obstacles to them being together, so he could pursue her without actually having to be with her), but then he had MAJOR relationships with Kitty Pryde, Polaris, and Mystique over the years. The story changed to where his being bisexual made a lot more sense but Bendis decided to ignore all of that and go back to the original plan.

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[Demosthenes]

Yeah, he came out when his younger self confronted him.

So the original plan back in the 80s had been for Iceman to be gay, but the storyline got interrupted before he came out and then never picked up again. In the 20+ years before they addressed it again, he had one relationship with a woman named Opal that could definitely have been a queer-coded beard situation (there were major obstacles to them being together, so he could pursue her without actually having to be with her), but then he had MAJOR relationships with Kitty Pryde, Polaris, and Mystique over the years. The story changed to where his being bisexual made a lot more sense but Bendis decided to ignore all of that and go back to the original plan.

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Bendis can be a bit ridiculous. He does shit like this all the time. On one hand I don't mind him being gay, on the other hand it seems a bit silly, especially in media where we get to see the internal monologues of characters. I would definitely have preferred bi, I was super down with that relationship he had with mistique for a while there.

[Rhyis.]

did mystique ever impregnate a chick? having the ability to swap genders at will might leave you to forget some of the finer points of your current genitalia

[Zealot]

did mystique ever impregnate a chick? having the ability to swap genders at will might leave you to forget some of the finer points of your current genitalia

Funny story, Chris Claremont had originally planned for Mystique to be Nightcrawler's dad, not mom, for exactly that reason. Surprisingly, Marvel said no only because they thought that would be too convoluted since it would have to be re-explained constantly for new readers.

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[Koyangi]

That actually makes a lot of sense.

[Roranora]

Zealot what do you have a comic collection of thousands or what

[Koyangi]

Zealot what do you have a comic collection of thousands or what

[AoE]

Cali bros. I might have a job out in Ventura soon. What do?

[Ksandra]

Order tacos.

[Zealot]

Zealot what do you have a comic collection of thousands or what

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