George Floyd Murder by Cop

[Gadritan]

Inc wall o' text.

Dear Draylo and friends. This thread is not about you. It's a fucking disgrace that this thread is being shitted up by all of this nonsense.

That applies to everyone trying to pile on. Cut. The. Shit. Out.

This is for something far more important than all the bickering going on in here.

So please, move to another thread, send private messages, SOMETHING.

It was mildly frustrating before, now I'm flat out angry. What changed? Well, bare with me here...

A couple of days ago I finally watched the ENTIRE video of Floyd's death. I had only watched a few minutes of it prior, enough to see how fucked up it was, or so I thought.

What I missed, was the part where he's crying for his momma. Now, it was disturbing to me before, but god damn this crushed my fucking soul. I always try to think about what it's like to be in someone's shoes. Given my privilege, I've never been able to fully understand the pain of those discriminated against. This was unique and forever changed me, because I had a distinct connection to that scenario.

As many of you are aware, I almost died this past November. It was from a simple medical emergency, not some racist piece of shit crushing my neck. I started to black out at the hospital and only remember 2 things at this point: calling for my mom and knowing I was going to die. I've never told a soul this because it's something you just can't articulate. It was absolutely the most terrifying moment of my life.

That part, I feel. I have literally felt that pain. But for it to be caused by a FUCKING POLICE OFFICER is a level of confusion and pain I absolutely can not fathom. For that man to know he was dying while people watched on.. while police held him there.. another human being slowly murdering him in plain sight. Christ. His mind had to be racing. Why? Why is this happening? Why isn't someone helping? My daughter..(I have a 6 year old daughter as well, another connection), my mother...help, someone please help.

I have broken down crying over half dozen times trying to imagine that. Not afraid to admit it. And I'm not the emotional type. I now have a seething rage and pain inside of me that I know can't even begin to touch on what minorities feel, and it's still overwhelming. I just can't comprehend living in so much fear, because I've never had to.

My ancestry is "black Irish," a recent slang term for Irish mixed with Scandinavian and iberian peninsula because we have very dark skin, but there's no doubt I'm white. My dad looks middle eastern, so he's dealt with stupid shit here and there, but nothing big.

The reason I bring this up is because I lied about quite a bit of that shit when I was trolling YCS. I understand I can still be banned for it, but this is more important. Guys, I fabricated so much shit during that time to troll, and while it was some next level shit that got eaten up, I think it's time I come clean on that, so that you know my true perspective, my privileged perspective.

Now, I have to DO more. My mother is babysitting for me tomorrow so I can join the protest in Raleigh. My wife thinks I'm crazy and doesn't want me to go because "it's too dangerous and you have a 6 year old daughter to worry about." Yeah, so did Floyd. It ain't much, but it's a start.

That's what we need here on the small scale, a start. Stop insulting each other and START a dialogue. A real one. If you can't handle it properly, get the fuck out. Seriously. Mods, do your fucking job. Clean the trash out of here.

That goes both ways. You want to attack people like Draylo? Do it somewhere else. You want to defend Draylo? Do it somewhere else.

Let's attack and defend issues, not people. That's a MASSIVE ask on these boards, I know, but someone has to say it. Now we all need to do it. Please.

Thanks if you actually read this entire post. It's the most honest and genuine thing I've ever dropped here. So please try to keep it civil if you disagree with anything I have to say here. I'm more than happy to discuss any of it. And mods, if you have to retro ban me for the trolling, I understand.

There's so much more I want to touch on, but this post is long enough as is and I'm still having difficulty gathering my thoughts.

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[BerenTebogo]

Gad nobody gives a shit about you lying unless it's notorious bum levels. You've always been one of the ones to take dumbshit stances and have to have common sense things "proved" to you so it is good to see you come around. That much is appreciated.

That said, after reading your post I think you need to get up and take a walk or something man. That's a lot of emotion for BG. Take care of yourself.

[BerenTebogo]

Great news presented in an incorrect tone.

[Rhyis.]

Its not necessarily great news. All the good cops that actually give a damn could be jumping ship atm. Whos to say

[Gredival]

I do not believe it is legal that you wait a year for ARRAIGNMENT. I understand that the trial can be delayed for a long time. But the charges need to be formally entered into record before they can just lock you up eternally, no?



Understood.

Still open question about the absolute maximum legal time you can be held without an ARRAIGNMENT. And I understand a writ of HC can be filed but there must be circumstances in place for people without representation and such.

I don't think that's established anywhere and other states having a self conforming standard isn't persuasive as to what that standard should be. But the fact other states didn't have to change their standards for arraignment could be factual backing for why NY's argument doesn't meet strict scrutiny as a factual matter (shows there's no emergency/need)

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[Corrderio]

Its not necessarily great news. All the good cops that actually give a damn could be jumping ship atm. Whos to say

This is another facet that sucks to me. I know there are some good cops but I haven't seen any speak up on wanting changes to policy/etc.

[Kanriel]

Its not necessarily great news. All the good cops that actually give a damn could be jumping ship atm. Whos to say

Good. In my opinion this would be a good help in making them qualified for a redone NYPD. Start the whole branch over, people who refused to participate in putting down peaceful protesters that also had clean records prior to it that re-apply can be given leadership positions.

[Andalusian girls]

him crying out for his mama got me too brother

[BerenTebogo]

Its not necessarily great news. All the good cops that actually give a damn could be jumping ship atm. Whos to say

True. We don't know. In my head this reads as "well if I don't get to beat minorities without any penalties anymore what's even the point of doing this job???"

[Draylo]

I think they should all quit, I would too if I was a cop in this environment. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Let the people police themselves like they are calling for.

As to Gad, I appreciate the realness in your post. I wanted to remain civil in my discussions with everyone here but they literally attacked me since day1 of coming into this thread. This is such an important issue, I feel trolling and personal attacks shouldn't be allowed. Everyone comes from different viewpoints and we all have different opinions on how to approach a problem we all know is a problem. Many people have stayed out of this discussion for fear of retribution for any little thing they said that goes against the majority in any form.

I do hope you remain safe during whatever you feel is the correct action to take.

[Cail]

Congressional Democrats will in the next few days release a proposal to address police brutality and other issues involving law enforcement accountability, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Thursday, calling George Floyd’s death “an inflection point” for the country.

“It has changed everything,” she said.

“Public sentiment… makes all the difference in the world,” she added later on a call marking one year since the House passed an immigration bill. More information will come at a Monday press conference, she said.

“Many of these bills have been in the hopper and, now, with all the public exposure of it, we have a better chance of getting them turned into law,” Pelosi said.

Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) said on the same call that Senate Democrats are asking Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) to bring legislation on policing and racial justice to the floor before the Fourth of July. McConnell said this week that “there may be a role” for lawmakers as Floyd’s death sparks renewed calls for police reforms.

Sens. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) and Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) are working closely with the House, the Congressional Black Caucus and the House Judiciary Committee, Schumer said. "So we are very hopeful that we will have legislation that can be supported, at least by the Democrats in both Houses," he said, "and hopefully we will get some Republicans to join us."

Divisions erupted Thursday on the Senate floor, though, as Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) clashed with Booker and Harris over a bill with overwhelming bipartisan backing that would make lynching a federal crime. Paul sought an amendment, arguing the bill would “cheapen the meaning of lynching by defining it so broadly as to include a minor bruise or abrasion.”

Harris called Paul’s suggestion the bill does not treat lynching seriously “an insult” to “all of the senators past and present who have understood this is part of the great stain of America’s history.”

“He is my friend,” Booker said of Paul. “But I am so raw today.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...-live-updates/

[Draylo]

This is another facet that sucks to me. I know there are some good cops but I haven't seen any speak up on wanting changes to policy/etc.

Wat. I have posted countless videos of police that acknowledge there is an issue.

[Gadritan]

Gad nobody gives a shit about you lying unless it's notorious bum levels. You've always been one of the ones to take dumbshit stances and have to have common sense things "proved" to you so it is good to see you come around. That much is appreciated.

That said, after reading your post I think you need to get up and take a walk or something man. That's a lot of emotion for BG. Take care of yourself.

That emotion isn't for BG. I'm perfectly stable.

Please understand that those dumbshit stances and reversals were the trolling. This isn't a loliwastrollingsafeface. I was laughing about it with Day while I was doing it. I know I'm a radically different person than most of you think because I've rarely made a serious post or comment. I get bored and troll. Been doing it for years. It's scumbag stuff but thanks to this very forum I mastered it.

I get it's difficult to say I was lying the whole time then expect everyone to accept this stuff as genuine, so I won't hold that expectation. I'm just going to keep it on the straight and narrow from here in out. Hopefully I can regain some respect and trust by doing so, but I understand if not.

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[Kanriel]

https://twitter.com/PalmerReport/sta...23863531241474

Look at all the good guys.

[kuronosan]

I think they should all quit, I would too if I was a cop in this environment. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Let the people police themselves like they are calling for.

As to Gad, I appreciate the realness in your post. I wanted to remain civil in my discussions with everyone here but they literally attacked me since day1 of coming into this thread. This is such an important issue, I feel trolling and personal attacks shouldn't be allowed. Everyone comes from different viewpoints and we all have different opinions on how to approach a problem we all know is a problem. Many people have stayed out of this discussion for fear of retribution for any little thing they said that goes against the majority in any form.

I do hope you remain safe during whatever you feel is the correct action to take.

Holy fuck stop making everything about you dude

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[Gadritan]

One of the demands from the protesters in Raleigh is that any officer that doesn't intervene when they see a civil rights violation occurring be terminated.

That one stands out as one of the better proposals to me. Obviously it'd be hell implementing it from a legal standpoint, but some form of it needs to happen.



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[Draylo]

Holy fuck stop making everything about you dude

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I was directly responding to him who mentioned my name several times, fuck off already with the constant "STAHP posting"

He literally mentioned my name specifically. Jesus lol.

[Kanriel]

https://twitter.com/PalmerReport/sta...23863531241474

Look at all the good guys.

In case anyone didn't keep watching the video: All of the officers just walk by the dude, the national guard actually stops and helps him. That's why people say ACAB.

[Rhyis.]

True. We don't know. In my head this reads as "well if I don't get to beat minorities without any penalties anymore what's even the point of doing this job???"

the other side is "ive spent my entire life upholding the law without fault and the entire country thinks im one of the slack-jawed yokels in the department i dont even work with".

using broad strokes on a workforce of millions is almost as dumb and lazy as using broad strokes on a race of people. shit all the cops leaving could be black

[Draylo]

In case anyone didn't keep watching the video: All of the officers just walk by the dude, the national guard actually stops and helps him. That's why people say ACAB.

That is terrible, doesn't make any sense what they did. One tried to help and the other stopped him, what a shame.