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    2 - But I also wanted to share some information about 8 Can't Wait and DeRay Mckesson to help some of you move past well-intentioned but ineffective reforms and towards the real justice work of abolition.

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    The left really fucking sucks at messaging for real. Republicans pass massively unpopular bills all the time cause messaging works, why the hell would the powers that be at crooked media settle on defund the police

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    3 - DeRay Mckesson is a controversial figure in the Black Lives Matters movement. Many outside observers, especially white moderate liberals, see him as a figurehead of the struggle. He has prominence and celebrity--much more, in fact, than Alicia Garza, Patrisse Khan-Cullors, and Opal Tometti--the three women who cofounded the BLM campaign and organization.

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    4 - By defining protest and its goals for a large group of observers, Mckesson sets the limit of political dialogue and imagination. Because he believes that racism is an individual set of choices rather than a systemic problem, his work omits decades of scholarship about race to focus on reforms that essentially preserve the status quo.

    The truth is that there exists a wealth of work that Mckesson never cites, engages, or even challenges. While reading, one wonders why the crucial works of so many activists, authors, scholars, and thinkers who've struggled in this field of work over the years have been completely disregarded by Mckesson.
    https://truthout.org/articles/deray-...case-for-hope/

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    5 - Before we get into the specific problems with 8 Can't Wait, let's talk about that missing wealth of work. One woman who has shaped much of my thinking around prison culture and policing is Mariame Kaba.

    Whatever you ultimately decide regarding reform vs abolition, you should know Kaba's organizing campaigns and writings. You can hear about her work in conversation with Clint Smith and Josie Duffy Rice on The Appeal podcast and follow her organization Project NIA for more information.

    https://theappeal.org/justice-in-ame...son-abolition/

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    Rora wtf are you octuple posting my dude just make 1 big post

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    6 - One of my first introductions to abolition was Mariama Kaba's (two-part!) podcast about Johnny Cash(!!) on her Prison Culture blog.

    I mean, I just don't think prisons do any good. They put 'em in there and just make 'em worse, if they were ever bad in the first place, and then when we let 'em out they're just better at whatever put 'em in there in the first place. Nothing good ever came out a prison. That's all I'm trying to say. - J. Cash
    http://www.usprisonculture.com/blog/...former-part-1/

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    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    Rora wtf are you octuple posting my dude just make 1 big post
    can't my dude. 5 more I think

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    Fuck man didn't anyone ever teach you how to consolidate and summarize?

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    7 - Ruth Wilson Gilmore doesn't wear a flashy blue vest, but she has studied, advocated, and shaped dialogue on prison abolition for three decades.

    "So many of these proposed remedies don't end up diminishing the system. They regard the system that is something that can be fixed by removing and replacing a few elements "

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/17/m...n-gilmore.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuronosan View Post
    Fuck man didn't anyone ever teach you how to consolidate and summarize?

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    Y'all can give me shit but I'm bringing over the lot. It's not like we read long posts anyway.

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    8 - And then, of course, there's Angela Davis


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    You right.

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    But I'm not reading those either.

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    Wtf happened in here

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    9 - Mariame Kaba, Ruth Wilson Gilmore, and Angela Davis are just three significant voices in a multi-generational, multiracial conversation regarding prison reform and abolition.

    The point is, no matter how iconic one figure seems in the public eye, many people participate in the robust dialogue and radical practice of a movement. This is part of the problem with how we present history in the deeds of singular heroes. We look for that hero to emerge even from leaderful, diffuse movements that require much more nuanced study. And when media anoints a figurehead for us, we empower that voice to the exclusion of all others.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Salodin View Post
    Wtf happened in here

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    3 more mate

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    Yeah not reading that obnoxious spamming either.

    In other news, file this one in "shit i never thought i'd see but it's a reminder this is 2020": Mitt Romney walking with protestors:
    https://twitter.com/ryanegorman/stat...49045142212610

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    welp there it is

    an entire page of tldr

    you did it

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    10 - I urge you to take time with your support and advocacy.

    Should you support a policy from first impression, a first-guess notion that one idea is practical and another wildly impossible?

    What happens when those first impressions are wrong? What happens when dominant narratives mislead people about solutions to limit our political discourse, imagination, and will?

    The status quo remains virtually unchanged.

    What will the world look like when Black lives matter? Even more importantly, what world can we create that celebrates Black lives, Black power, and Black liberation?


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