George Floyd Murder by Cop

[Salodin]

I've actually been part of CBA negotiations on both sides of the table. I'm probably a decent guy to talk to about the subject.

And those types of plans would work more often if police unions weren't strong enough to make the other party acquiesce in all except the most glaringly obvious of crimes

Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk

[Karbuncle]

Re: spousal and child abuse from cops

I'm for getting them psychiatric help, but I'm also for charging them criminally along the EXACT same statutes that a normal citizen would be held to. The law does not make allowance for domestic abuse due to increased stress from work for doctors, firefighters, military, or any high stress / high danger job. None, whatsoever.

If a charge of assault would be filed for a citizen it should be filed for a cop. Period. You don't get to traumatize and brutalize your family because you had a hard day at work.

I'm very happy to know your stance on the subject is the same as mine.

[Meresgi]

[Rhyis.]

Guess it had to get there eventually lol

[tyven]

I think these increased charges are a testament to the violence NONE OF US CONDONE, actually have an effect. Kaepernick was kneeling for months, this took a week. While we'd all prefer it didn't happen this way, it did, and is having some kind of effect. The tear gas, pepper praying, beating protesters - it's a bit of insight into what people who have been saying there's corruption for years.

Again, I don't condone it happening the way it did, but i understand why.. and look at its effects

The case never would have been given to Keith Ellison, that’s for sure.

[Meresgi]

Because our nation thinks stress is strength. Life satisfaction makes you more productive and less prone to stress burnout.

Don't get me wrong though, cops protecting each other and racism are also huge contributors to the problem.

Sent from my SM-G986U using Tapatalk

Yup, bad cops being bad and good cops being stressed beyond a fucking breaking point are both major issues. Cop buddy often has to end up staying 4-6hrs late during his shift just to write up paperwork or process someone, doesn't get shit for pay and vacation either and none of that overtime is covered too. Just part of the job! America baby.

[Vaspinne]

Pic was debunked as a Photoshop a couple days ago. The Hitler holding a Bible part specifically

[Corrderio]

Yup, bad cops being bad and good cops being stressed beyond a fucking breaking point are both major issues. Cop buddy often has to end up staying 4-6hrs late during his shift just to write up paperwork or process someone, doesn't get shit for pay and vacation either and none of that overtime is covered too. Just part of the job! America baby.

Sadly that's a problem with a lot of jobs and I can't blame cops for hitting a breaking point dealing with that shit. Crunch time at my old job in Nebraska was insane (Basically if I wasn't asleep I was working) and it can really fuck with you mental state. Top that with having to deal with people fighting, taking shit, etc. and oof at the people that had good intentions at the start.

[Cail]

Mattis' statement

I have watched this week’s unfolding events, angry and appalled. The words “Equal Justice Under Law” are carved in the pediment of the United States Supreme Court. This is precisely what protesters are rightly demanding. It is a wholesome and unifying demand—one that all of us should be able to get behind. We must not be distracted by a small number of lawbreakers. The protests are defined by tens of thousands of people of conscience who are insisting that we live up to our values—our values as people and our values as a nation.

When I joined the military, some 50 years ago, I swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution. Never did I dream that troops taking that same oath would be ordered under any circumstance to violate the Constitutional rights of their fellow citizens—much less to provide a bizarre photo op for the elected commander-in-chief, with military leadership standing alongside.

We must reject any thinking of our cities as a “battlespace” that our uniformed military is called upon to “dominate.” At home, we should use our military only when requested to do so, on very rare occasions, by state governors. Militarizing our response, as we witnessed in Washington, D.C., sets up a conflict—a false conflict—between the military and civilian society. It erodes the moral ground that ensures a trusted bond between men and women in uniform and the society they are sworn to protect, and of which they themselves are a part. Keeping public order rests with civilian state and local leaders who best understand their communities and are answerable to them.

James Madison wrote in Federalist 14 that “America united with a handful of troops, or without a single soldier, exhibits a more forbidding posture to foreign ambition than America disunited, with a hundred thousand veterans ready for combat.” We do not need to militarize our response to protests. We need to unite around a common purpose. And it starts by guaranteeing that all of us are equal before the law.

Instructions given by the military departments to our troops before the Normandy invasion reminded soldiers that “The Nazi slogan for destroying us…was ‘Divide and Conquer.’ Our American answer is ‘In Union there is Strength.’” We must summon that unity to surmount this crisis—confident that we are better than our politics.

Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people—does not even pretend to try. Instead he tries to divide us. We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership. We can unite without him, drawing on the strengths inherent in our civil society. This will not be easy, as the past few days have shown, but we owe it to our fellow citizens; to past generations that bled to defend our promise; and to our children.

We can come through this trying time stronger, and with a renewed sense of purpose and respect for one another. The pandemic has shown us that it is not only our troops who are willing to offer the ultimate sacrifice for the safety of the community. Americans in hospitals, grocery stores, post offices, and elsewhere have put their lives on the line in order to serve their fellow citizens and their country. We know that we are better than the abuse of executive authority that we witnessed in Lafayette Square. We must reject and hold accountable those in office who would make a mockery of our Constitution. At the same time, we must remember Lincoln’s “better angels,” and listen to them, as we work to unite.

Only by adopting a new path—which means, in truth, returning to the original path of our founding ideals—will we again be a country admired and respected at home and abroad.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...zation/612640/

[kuronosan]

Some powerful stuff there. Donald shitstorm in 3... 2...

Sent from my SM-G986U using Tapatalk

[Rhyis.]

Quality message.

[Corrderio]

That dude has my respect.

[Meresgi]

Pic was debunked as a Photoshop a couple days ago. The Hitler holding a Bible part specifically

Ahh just read the Snopes article. I do enjoy Trump holding the bible upside down.

[Corrderio]

Woah he really was holding it upside down?

[Emphasis]

Woah he really was holding it upside down?

Looks like it might be backwards as well.

[BerenTebogo]

If that were literally any other person in the world he would be called the anti-christ for it by his base.

[Cail]

If that were literally any other person in the world he would be called the anti-christ for it by his base.

Probably still will be

[Guyverarmor]

Probably still will be

They don't talk about their God Emperor like that...

[thetruepandagod]

wonder how long it would take mattis to get suckerpunched by a 'protester' if he was just out on a day walk

[Guyverarmor]

The guy is almost 70 but I am pretty positive he could beat the shit out of a 'protester'. My father is former marines and was in Iraq during the time Mattis was there and saw him take part during some of the hand to hand combat exercises they had to do out there. Needless to say, Mattis was able to take some marines down no problem. So yeah...they try to suckerpunch him but will be in a world of hurt after it.