Police Reform - Don't Be A Karen About It

[jmc]

Why would you actually want to view something like that.. I mean. They don't give stuff like that out for a reason. A little sick honestly.

Closure for family is usually the number one reason. To see exactly what happened, not just hear it.

Most families refuse to believe someone they love would intentionally harm themselves.


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[Karbuncle]

Closure for family is usually the number one reason. To see exactly what happened, not just hear it.

Most families refuse to believe someone they love would intentionally harm themselves.

Yes, the Family should have a right to view it and they likely do/will(?). Not the public, which was originally what was implied and what Draylo was responding too.

To clarify my stance, I'd just personally not want to view that kind of thing. Them releasing the video publicly would be enough confirmation of its contents for me not to care to watch it.

[jmc]

Yes, the Family should have a right to view it and they likely do/will(?). Not the public, which was originally what was implied and what Draylo was responding too.

To clarify my stance, I'd just personally not want to view that kind of thing. Them releasing the video publicly would be enough confirmation of its contents for me not to care to watch it.

Ah ok, I gotcha.

Yea I agree, family viewing only. If they want to put out a statement to the public later, more power to them


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[kuronosan]

Jfc, I never said publicly release.

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[Zealot]

I'm gonna see that rope fry for this.

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[kuronosan]

Okay at this point I'm just going to laugh at myself and move on.

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[Karbuncle]

I wouldn't want to be responsible for anyone tearing an ACL.

[Tymon]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/18/us/pa...ing/index.html

Palmdale cops making sure to silence the family now I guess

[kuronosan]

I wouldn't want to be responsible for anyone tearing an ACL.

I understood that reference.

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[Tyche]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/18/us/pa...ing/index.html

Palmdale cops making sure to silence the family now I guess

I mean, that's a pretty justifiable use of force on the police officer's part. Was he beating the female and took her captive at gunpoint? He was being pulled over for domestic assault kidnapping.

[Tyche]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/18/us/pa...ing/index.html

Palmdale cops making sure to silence the family now I guess

I mean, that's a pretty justifiable use of force on the police officer's part. Was he beating the female and took her captive at gunpoint? He was being pulled over for domestic assault kidnapping.

[Gadritan]

I mean, that's a pretty justifiable use of force on the police officer's part. Was he beating the female and took her captive at gunpoint? He was being pulled over for domestic assault kidnapping.

If their story is correct, and it's gonna be hella easy to confirm, he opened the door, got out, and started firing at the cops. That's as justifiable as it gets.

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[mallister]

If that's the gist of it, file under the play stupid games/win stupid prizes category. What a dumbass.

[Melena]

Yup, if this happened at any other time, it would be universally considered a good/justifiable shoot. But you know people are still going to scream bloody murder over this.

[Tymon]

And they should keep doing it until we have systems in place that us having to sit here wondering how they'll prove it is an obsolete concept

[Lokus]

https://twitter.com/ACLUofColorado/s...988714497?s=19

Colorado to become one of the first states to end qualified immunity. You can be sure that some lawsuits to get it repealed are brewing.

[jmc]

https://twitter.com/ACLUofColorado/s...988714497?s=19

Colorado to become one of the first states to end qualified immunity. You can be sure that some lawsuits to get it repealed are brewing.

Lawyers in CO just creamed their pants lol


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[Cail]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...154_story.html

Senate Democrats on Wednesday blocked a Republican-drafted bill aimed at overhauling the nation’s policing practices amid a national outcry for a systematic transformation of law enforcement — spelling a potential death knell to efforts at revisions at the federal level in an election year.


In a 55-to-45 vote, the legislation written primarily by Sen. Tim Scott (R-S.C.) failed to advance in the Senate, where it needed 60 votes to proceed. Most Democratic senators said the bill fell far short of what was needed to meaningfully change policing tactics and was beyond the point of salvageable.

“The Republican majority proposed the legislative equivalent of a fig leaf — something that provides a little cover but no real change,” Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) said in a floor speech Wednesday morning. “The harsh fact of the matter is, the bill is so deeply, fundamentally and irrevocably flawed, it cannot serve as a useful starting point for meaningful reform.”


Democrats are pushing a more expansive policing bill that the Democratic-led House will vote on Thursday, a measure that would mandate several changes, including a federal ban on chokeholds, prohibitions on no-knock warrants in federal drug cases and establishment of a national database to track police misconduct.

[Cail]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/power...74a_story.html

The House on Thursday passed an expansive Democratic-led measure that would revamp law enforcement practices following the public clamor for change after the death of George Floyd.


The largely party-line vote of 236 to 181 epitomized the polarized debate in recent weeks, despite public polling showing broad support for some restrictions on law enforcement after the high-profile deaths of Floyd and other African Americans at the hands of police.


With the Trump administration threatening a veto, most House Republicans lined up against the Democratic proposal and instead indicated support for a narrower proposal offered by Senate Republicans. Only three Republicans — Reps. Will Hurd (Tex.), the lone black GOP House member; Brian Fitzpatrick (Pa.), and Fred Upton (Mich.) — broke ranks and joined Democrats in backing the House bill.

The House bill is named for Floyd, a 46-year-old black man whose killing in Minneapolis police custody last month sparked a nationwide outcry and sweeping demonstrations against systemic racism and police brutality. Three parents of victims in other cases of police violence that have drawn national attention also threw their support behind the bill Thursday.


The House legislation would ban chokeholds, establish a national database to track police misconduct and prohibit certain no-knock warrants, among other initiatives. The bill, which has more than 200 Democratic co-sponsors, contains several provisions that would make it easier to hold officers accountable for misconduct in civil and criminal court.

[Guitarman]

McConnell already came out and said its a non starter. Wouldn't give my hopes up.