George Floyd (II): Say His Name

[Tymon]

He was foaming at the mouth and saying he couldn't breathe, I've seen countless videos where cops call ambulances for people under arrest just because they say they want one.

[Ksandra]

To be honest HC isn't necessarily wrong here. Unless the person in question is largely disorganized or shot down and not obviously dead cops generally won't involve the hospital.

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What you and HC are missing is we are saying they should, not that they do. And this is why reform needs to happen because they didn’t.

[kuronosan]

What you and HC are missing is we are saying they should, not that they do. And this is why reform needs to happen because they didn’t.

I'm literally the person they bring them to. I'm not missing anything.

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[Zealot]

Speaking of zimmerman, almost identical story regarding Floyd with the medical examiner. Same hired private examiner too.

That shit should speak volumes but y'all dont care about truth, you just want justification to believe what you want.

If you're defending Zimmerman then I hope he shoots you and auctions off the gun.

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[Ksandra]

I'm literally the person they bring them to. I'm not missing anything.

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Ok and? What does that have to do what you said? You say they typically don’t send them to you. We are saying they SHOULD.

[Salodin]

I guess only people who have ever had a panic attack can recognize the man was having a panic attack cause man now im even more bummed about the incident

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[Ksandra]

Hey guys, did you know Kuro is a doctor?

[Dimmauk]

How many of yall have had the police pull up to you with guns drawn?
How many of yall have had the police ask you if you have guns, weapons, explosives, drugs or large sums of money?

I've had both questions happen to me twice. For absolutely no reason why other than my skin color

[Kaslo]

To be honest HC isn't necessarily wrong here. Unless the person in question is largely disorganized or shot down and not obviously dead cops generally won't involve the hospital.

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Well, he's wrong in the sense that he changed his argument after that argument was clearly wrong.

[kuronosan]

Ok and? What does that have to do what you said? You say they typically don’t send them to you. We are saying they SHOULD.

And I'm not saying they shouldn't. I'm saying they should, but that HC isn't stating something factually incorrect.

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[kuronosan]

Hey guys, did you know Kuro is a doctor?

Hey, did you know Ksan is a mod who tries to bait people into ad homs?

Grow up.

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[arus2001]

I'd also propose that cops in different areas may react differently to ambulance/hospital requests.

[Dimmauk]

George Floyd allegedly used a fake 20 dollar bill which could have been an accident and the cops pull up on him with guns drawn.

[Ksandra]

And I'm not saying they shouldn't. I'm saying they should, but that HC isn't stating something factually incorrect.

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He’s saying that it’s not apparent the guy needed medical attention. What facts support that theory? That he was saying he can’t breathe? That he had wide eyes asking not to get shot again (consistent with PTSD behavior)? That he said he was claustrophobic? That he was frothing at the mouth he was so panicked?


Yeah, clearly the dude was fine.

[Heavencloud]

Because he said very early on he was a. Claustrophobic and b. Can’t breathe. Not to mention clearly having a panic attack with implied PTSD from being previously shot. I mean call a mental health person to come and talk the guy down. Police don’t have that option you say? THATS WHY PEOPLE WANT FUNDING MOVED TO THOSE RESOURCES SO THEY WILL.

they do have that option - like you said, it's EMS. they did call EMS after he resisted enough to get himself out of the car and ended up on the ground because of his actions (also sounds like he asked to be put on the ground at one point in the vid?).

claustrophobia and anxiety ("can't breathe" while he is being helped into a car) aren't really reasons to call EMS upfront. not all criminals need an EMS evaluation. and please don't bring all criminals to my ER.

btw, jails have mental health health care professionals on site.

[Ksandra]

Hey, did you know Ksan is a mod who tries to bait people into ad homs?

Grow up.

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Not an ad hominem. Just a reminder in case people hadn’t noticed the other ten thousand times you’ve mentioned it.

[kuronosan]

I'm just going to stop bothering. Y'all act like we're best friends or that I ever talk about what I do outside of responding to medical fucking posts.

I have shit to do.

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[Lokus]

George Floyd allegedly used a fake 20 dollar bill which could have been an accident and the cops pull up on him with guns drawn.

Guns were drawn cause he didn't immediately show both his hands and police tend to be under the assumption that someone is armed and ready to murder them if compliance isn't met without question.

[Ksandra]

they do have that option - like you said, it's EMS. they did call EMS after he resisted enough to get himself out of the car and ended up on the ground because of his actions (also sounds like he asked to be put on the ground at one point in the vid?).

claustrophobia and anxiety ("can't breathe" while he is being helped into a car) aren't really reasons to call EMS upfront. not all criminals need an EMS evaluation. and please don't bring all criminals to my ER.

btw, jails have mental health health care professionals on site.

Then fucking use them instead of shoving a panicked person into the car over fucking $20 that you don’t even know if he used knowingly.

He should have never fallen to the ground. Dude shouldn’t have even been handcuffed, but even the once he was sitting partially in the car this all could have gone differently if they said, “You’ll be all right. Just stay here, we’re calling medical help for you. You don’t have to get in the car. Breathe with me.”

They didn’t because cop training is all about power and because he didn’t follow their orders exactly they didn’t give a shit about his health.

[Kaslo]

Guns were drawn cause he didn't immediately show both his hands and police tend to be under the assumption that someone is armed and ready to murder them if compliance isn't met without question.

Guns were drawn when they were walking up to his minivan...