George Floyd (II): Say His Name

[D44kpunk]

Jesus dude do you even gather context before you post links like that?

They're not even the same thing.

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i know this is incredibly hard to follow so i will lay it out but its apropos that it's a completely different subject given the back and forth was comparing a white man being shot with a knife and a black man being shot with a knife and being told they are completely different situations.

i'm sure this post will trigger zealot saying i have some sort of superiority complex and i assume it's just you haven't read back the last pages but it was pretty obvious that that's what i was trying to do.

D44k pay attention here. This is a reasonable, intelligent counter post.

Had he jumped in and tried to start it up, that would get closer to it. Though it's still making a lot of assumptions.

I hope that was their train of thought, as it makes it a bit more palatable, but I still disagree with the use of deadly force as a precautionary action.

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i never even said them shooting him was justified, just said it was very dumb to cite/back up that this doesn't happen to white people with a clip of a white person being shot by police lmao. i think you're either missing the point completely or avoiding it now that this is starting to look eerily similar (knife, confrontation etc.)

[kuronosan]

i know this is incredibly hard to follow so i will lay it out but its apropos that it's a completely different subject given the back and forth was comparing a white man being shot with a knife and a black man being shot with a knife and being told they are completely different situations.

i'm sure this post will trigger zealot saying i have some sort of superiority complex and i assume it's just you haven't read back the last pages but it was pretty obvious that that's what i was trying to do.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt because honestly I didn't but thank you for clarifying.

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[Dimmauk]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44146816

can you believe he shot someone with so many kids around? absolutely grotesque.



don't dude, they have a narrative to follow.

[Karbuncle]

D44k pay attention here. This is a reasonable, intelligent counter post.

Had he jumped in and tried to start it up, that would get closer to it. Though it's still making a lot of assumptions.

I hope that was their train of thought, as it makes it a bit more palatable, but I still disagree with the use of deadly force as a precautionary action.

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I agree, in that I don't believe deadly force should be used as a precautionary action in basically all situations. Its always a tough call for me, but this is just one of this situations where I have to admit given the scenario allowing him to reach in his car (and possibly jump in in an instant) could have really really soured the situation. At that point their options are either fire into a car with children(which god save me, would have burned the city to the ground), or let him go which would lead to likely a high-speed chase and put those children in huge risk if he gets into an accident, or as I said above even using them as leverage.

Honestly, I don't envy the officers who had to make that choice in this situation, and even though based on what I've read here I don't believe the officers were acting in benevolence here, I do think that stopping him from getting into his vehicle was the lesser of two evils.

Wrong reasons, right choice, if you will.

[Dimmauk]

Wasn't the comparison between white man with a knife getting shot and an unarmed black man getting shot in the back was to show the difference in restraint between the some what similar situations? And by similar, I mean the result in the cops shooting someone.

[D44kpunk]

"DROP THE KNIFE"

[Milkster]

Wasn't the comparison between white man with a knife getting shot and an unarmed black man getting shot in the back was to show the difference in restraint between the some what similar situations? And by similar, I mean the result in the cops shooting someone.

It was. They both got shot but the restraint shown was vastly different I.e. homeboy was chasing the woman around while she had a gun drawn vs. man walking away getting blasted in the back.

[Milkster]

I agree, in that I don't believe deadly force should be used as a precautionary action in basically all situations. Its always a tough call for me, but this is just one of this situations where I have to admit given the scenario allowing him to reach in his car (and possibly jump in in an instant) could have really really soured the situation. At that point their options are either fire into a car with children(which god save me, would have burned the city to the ground), or let him go which would lead to likely a high-speed chase and put those children in huge risk if he gets into an accident, or as I said above even using them as leverage.

Honestly, I don't envy the officers who had to make that choice in this situation, and even though based on what I've read here I don't believe the officers were acting in benevolence here, I do think that stopping him from getting into his vehicle was the lesser of two evils.

Wrong reasons, right choice, if you will.

Or is a police chase and the resources required if a man that was breaking up an altercation even needed? Like the escalation is completely unnecessary. If someone is walking away or leaving then they pose 0 threat to you until the situation changes.

[Gadritan]

It was. They both got shot but the restraint shown was vastly different I.e. homeboy was chasing the woman around while she had a gun drawn vs. man walking away getting blasted in the back.

Not to mention the female officer was alone.

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[D44kpunk]

It was. They both got shot but the restraint shown was vastly different I.e. homeboy was chasing the woman around while she had a gun drawn vs. man walking away getting blasted in the back.

[Kaslo]

Did D44k pull a Don Jr. tonight?

[Heavencloud]

https://twitter.com/markdice/status/...656504833?s=21

https://twitter.com/elijahschaffer/s...716295680?s=21

[Heavencloud]

https://twitter.com/livesmattershow/...599984640?s=21

[Dimmauk]

https://twitter.com/markdice/status/...656504833?s=21

https://twitter.com/elijahschaffer/s...716295680?s=21

Its crazy how unhappy young people are these days. This is Trump's fault

[kuronosan]

Walking around armed and pointing guns while young or black = terrorists.

Walking around armed and pointing guns while wearing tactical gear and white = patriots.

K.

[Guyverarmor]

Walking around armed and pointing guns while young or black = terrorists.

Walking around armed and pointing guns while wearing tactical gear and white = patriots.

K.

Now you are getting it, I'm so proud of you ! I'm sure D4kk and HC are proud of you as well for finally realizing this.

[Cantih]

Walking around armed and pointing guns while wearing tactical gear and white = patriots.

K.

And tactical gear now includes

[kuronosan]

Ah yes, those protesters. The ones who were wearing full tactical gear. In a courthouse. K.

[Tyrath]

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[6souls]

https://abc7chicago.com/jacob-blake-...-says/6387890/

Jacob is paralyzed from the waist down.