George Floyd (II): Say His Name

[NynJa]

And yet we have people trying to argue that all blacks must be bad if some are.

I'll take "Things no one has said" for 6, Alex.

[AoE]

The black on black crime shit is a talking point that anyone who brings up has no actual interest in understanding other than point scoring which is disgusting for an amount of reasons too high to count historically. White people are objectively more dangerous than any other race within the last 500 years and that's an objective fact. No matter how much a nigga might bust his gun, the amount of neighborhood damage will never match destroying a whole fucking city with a bomb or creating concentration camps to remove a race because a dude had an inferiority complex and too much social political influence.

What makes me even angrier about it though is that too many people can't argue against it for shit so the argument lives on because America is stupid all around. The rates that whites kill each other is at about 7%-8% slightly less than blacks. What people love to fail to consider is the population comparison between both races meaning I would be more afraid of being killed by another white man as a white man than I would by a black man as a black man. That doesn't even touch on cultural differences that makes it easy for me to spot that I'm in a potentially deadly situation as a black man because there really aren't that many reasons why a black man will kill another and it's usually between people that know each other.

You can't even step into a school as a white person (or any race honestly) without fucking worrying about some deranged white kid blowing my kids brains out for the most inane reason.

Zealot's actually slightly on the ball on this one in the sense that because there's a higher police presence in minority communities that there's a percentage of white crime that is probably underreported or unsolved. Even worse when you consider that conviction between whites and minorites are objectively not handled equally.

I tell my friends all the time, anyone who owns something they care about will do everything they can to make sure they don't lose it. Poor people don't own shit so they don't have shit to care about. That's not a race thing because every poor community regardless of race will have a higher crime rate than any middle class or upper class society. So when it's a fact that blacks deal with poverty at a higher rate than whites (even though media rarely ever touches on poor white people issues), for multiple reasons, it makes perfect sense why they commit more crimes which has nothing to do with race.

If we actually valued history, this shit would be easy to see and thus easy to solve. The problem is America is proud of it's history and gets upset when people point out that it's not history to be proud of. The difference between how Germany handled their crimes and how the U.S handles theirs is a dead give away to that.

[D44kpunk]

I'm pretty confused why you're using white man and American in conjunction and then talking about Hitler and praising Germany. What's going on here?

[Roranora]

What makes me even angrier about it though is that too many people can't argue against it for shit so the argument lives on because America is stupid all around.

I'm all for most everything you've said man, and yet sound, deliberate debate ain't bringing HC back around.

[AoE]

I don't post enough to care about HC unfortunately.

[AoE]

I'm pretty confused why you're using white man and American in conjunction and then talking about Hitler and praising Germany. What's going on here?

Because it is a historical fact that Hitler borrowed many of his tactics from the U.S's treatment of black people via Jim Crow. The rest you'll have to do your own homework on. I can't make you care though and I can accept that.

[Lucavi]

But that's all in the past, AoE. Blacks are killing eachother NOW, so all we should think about is how horrible they are instead of the fact that disadvantaged poor have been killing eachother for eons in every society that ever took a squat and shit on this planet's soil. Lets ignore the fact that socioeconomic circumstances matter most for crime; lets ignore the fact that this nation has crippled blacks figuratively, literally and economically since they arrived on this rock; lets ignore the fact that lack of parental figures through mass-incarceration in the 80's in response to the fear of another 60's united african-american bloc. Lets ignore the fact that blacks were jailed for the same things that whites were not in the 80's (crack vs. cocaine - crack of which was literally pumped into inner cities to gut them for generations by the Reagan administration). Lets ignore the fact that blacks couldn't live, then couldn't vote, then couldn't own land, then couldn't get a home loan from a bank, then couldn't marry outside of their goddamn melanin count, then couldn't use the same bathrooms or water fountains. Lets ignore the fact that the only food blacks could feed their kids came from a corner store or a fish fry because the government removed incentives for fresh grocery stores to invest in the communities. Lets ignore the massive disparity in education funding primarily black schools receive as opposed to the opposite. Lets ignore the scientific evidence that supports the fact 2-parent families with access to fresh water and healthy foods promote both physical and mental health, and lets forget how this country depleted those things for blacks.

Lets ignore the history of why things are absolutely abysmal for blacks today, but lets absolutely remind everyone that yeah, cops continue to harass and maim blacks for things that would see a white guy escorted home with a warning, because hey, blacks are still killing blacks! I suppose when the entirety of Europe was murdering eachother for 900 years straight, that was just no big deal. Whites slaughtering whites is a giant nothingburger because today's blacks still shoot one another over gang beef!

Never forget, everyone: blacks are still killing blacks. Those dastards. Those fiends.

God, if the blacks would just stop killing one another, history would unwind and all of this systemic oppression and sanctioned murder against them would vanish like a mote of dust in the wind. Its so easy, guys. Why don't they just stop killing one another?

God, its the fucking "stop resisting" line of thinking all over again. The same people crying "STOP RESISTING" to a black woman who gets gunned down in her own home by cops with a no-knock warrant in the middle of the goddamn night are the ones with the don't tread on me flags and are chomping at the bit to start "resisting" the government or tax increases or a mandate to wear a mask with their militia buddies.

[D44kpunk]

Because it is a historical fact that Hitler borrowed many of his tactics from the U.S's treatment of black people via Jim Crow. The rest you'll have to do your own homework on. I can't make you care though and I can accept that.

It's amazing to me that you guys cry endlessly about the argument "1 black person did it so they must all be bad" then you literally set the bar for white people as one person, fucking Hitler lmao.

Just cry less. Use less self defeating arguments. My 2 cents.

[AoE]

D44k go be short somewhere else. You're nitpicking instead of actually trying to understand and I honestly have no interest in the back and fourth.

[Salodin]

D44k go be short somewhere else. You're nitpicking instead of actually trying to understand and I honestly have no interest in the back and fourth.

This is the appropriate response when someone clearly has no interest in listening or learning, and only wants to win an argument.

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[Tyrath]

Told you guys this when he started with the black on black crime BS.

[D44kpunk]

D44k go be short somewhere else. You're nitpicking instead of actually trying to understand and I honestly have no interest in the back and fourth.

Nah, I'm pointing out how you can't drown out others with your tears about how "not all black people are bad because of a couple of people" and then on the other foot say "all white people (Americans) are bad because of Hitler".

Sorry man

[Milkster]

Nah, I'm pointing out how you can't drown out others with your tears about how "not all black people are bad because of a couple of people" and then on the other foot say "all white people (Americans) are bad because of Hitler".

Sorry man

Hitler was inspired by American racism against black and native people. White Americans inspired Hitler. Both perpetuated genocide. Quick burn vs slow burn.

[AoE]

You're not trying to have an honest conversation and I'm adult enough to accept that. Can you win already and bother someone else?

[guartz]

All I can say is that by supporting BLM, you guys give rise and legitimacy to people like AoE.

[Zealot]

All I can say is that by supporting BLM, you guys give rise and legitimacy to people like AoE.

BLM just got my vote.

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[Zealot]

"Slightly on the ball" is one of the best compliments I've ever gotten here.

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[Zealot]

"I have no interest in engaging with your point in any way" is a hell of a response, praise the honesty.

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[archibaldcrane]

All I can say is that by supporting BLM, you guys give rise and legitimacy to people like AoE.

Dude fuck off

[Tyrath]

AoE for president.

Sorry Zealot.