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    https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/...returning.html

    An attorney who was arrested in Portland shared her experience.

    Jennifer Kristiansen, 37, said she was standing arm-in-arm other women as part of the Wall of Moms near the front line of protesters converged outside the federal courthouse.

    She heard a woman nearby say she had been hit by an officer’s baton. Kristiansen said she put her arm in between the officer and people retreating.

    Another officer, wearing a black uniform, arrived and pointed at Kristiansen.

    “He said to the billy club guy, ‘That’s the one who hit me,’” Kristiansen told the Oregonian/OregonLive hours after her arrest Tuesday.

    The officers separated Kristiansen from the line in a series of actions she described as a blur. She said she had seen a video clip of her arrest that showed an officer restraining her with an arm across her chest.

    One of the arresting officers turned her around and pushed her against the wall of the federal courthouse, she said, then touched her breast and butt. It’s unclear if it was intentional or not. She was terrified for a moment.

    Officers handcuffed her and took her into the federal courthouse. One handcuff was so loose it slipped off, allowing her to quickly send a text from her Apple Watch to her husband: “Angry cursing face emoji. Sorry can’t talk right now. Police officer face emoji.”

    She said she was put in an elevator in the building with four officers. They took her to a holding cell on the fourth floor, where she stayed by herself. No one ever read her rights to her, she said.

    She tried to sleep, but barely did since the only place in the cell to sleep was a small metal bench.

    When officers tried to ask her questions about what happened, she said she chose not to speak, citing her Fifth Amendment rights.

    A few times, people came in and checked on her. She asked for a blanket or if the officer could bring her flannel from her bag — they did not. The person said he was sorry he couldn’t bring it to her Kristiansen said.

    “Don’t tell me you’re sorry when you’re not,” she said she thought to herself. “People who are sorry do not do what they did.”

    She said she is not dangerous, but was being treated like she was dangerous.

    Around 7:15 a.m., she was driven to the Multnomah County Detention Center, where she waited again in a cell until 1:25 p.m.

    County jail records confirm she was booked into jail at 7:20 a.m. at the request of U.S. Marshals.

    She said didn’t know what agency arrested her until she asked how she could get her phone and other personal items back later. Sheriff’s deputies said they didn’t have it but that Federal Protective Service did.

    No officers identified themselves to her throughout the night, she said.

    She also didn’t know until later what she had been arrested for, and found out from a member of the sheriff’s department, not a federal officer. She was charged with misdemeanor assault of a federal officer and for refusing to leave federal property.

    At 1:25 p.m., Kristiansen had her arraignment. When she was preparing to go, she was asked if she had her charging documents. She said she had never been given any. She also never got to call an attorney.

    She was released a little after 4 p.m., along with four other protesters arrested Monday. She didn’t get her phone, identification or shoe laces back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6souls View Post
    https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/...returning.html

    An attorney who was arrested in Portland shared her experience.
    Headline is a little click baity, she didn't have to be read her Miranda rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D44kpunk View Post
    i'm about the only person on this forum that is always against people getting killed, most of you would be ruled sociopathic if your posts came under inspection of anyone in the field that could deem you as such.
    I'd be willing to bet that most on here would actually prefer no one die in this conflict, be it the police, or the people murdered by police in broad daylight with impunity.

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    Yes but how could Punk believe himself superior to everybody else here if that were the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    Yes but how could Punk believe himself superior to everybody else here if that were the case.

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    then his superiority complex would perhaps be fed instead by the fact he's Iowan

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    https://news.yahoo.com/portland-mayo...131548335.html
    https://twitter.com/ByMikeBaker/stat...87243346919427

    Portland's Mayor & Police Commissioner Ted Wheeler attend last night's protest. He was booed and jeered for not taking a stance until this week and his reward for attending was getting tear gassed by the feds.

    Demonstrators frustrated with his handling of the city’s police department and his belated show of support for the protests chanted “F*** Ted Wheeler” and called on him to resign.

    “Ted, you’re the mayor. You’re in charge. We’re fighting out here, and you’re not. … We need you to help us or get out of the way,” musician and activist Mac Smiff told Wheeler. “If you don’t, it’s going to be four more years of hell. It’s going to be four more years of this. We’re going to be out here every night.”

    As Wheeler was being booed, he was also hit by tear gas.

    “I’m not going to lie — it stings; it’s hard to breathe,” Wheeler, a Democrat, told the New York Times. “And I can tell you with 100 percent honesty, I saw nothing which provoked this response.

    “A lot of these people hate my guts,” said Wheeler of the crowd, but he noted they were unified in their desire for the federal presence to withdraw, adding, “President Trump needs to focus on coronavirus and get his troops out of the city. My biggest fear is that somebody’s going to die. I want them to leave. This is going to come to a city near you if we don’t stop it.”


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    I'm beginning to understand that the opposition to demonstrations, at least here, believes that every protestor is rioting, the ones who aren't rioting are rioters in disguise, and the ones who aren't rioters in disguise are people duped into helping rioters so not a single "real" person is actually there to protest the police or systemic racism. Everybody, at some level, is part of the BLM-Antifa-Communist-Anarchist plot to completely destroy America, because all of those things are at the same time the same thing and also highly organized and cohesive groups (or group).

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    Hmm thats weird because it seems to me you are the one unable to distinguish between the various parties. Anytime someone mentions enforcing the law vs rioters it immediately gets conflated with peaceful protesters.

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    And every time people talk about police, they are talking about the bad apples.

    See how easy that is?

    And reductive.

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    Thats how you gotta roll in 2020

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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    Hmm thats weird because it seems to me you are the one unable to distinguish between the various parties. Anytime someone mentions enforcing the law vs rioters it immediately gets conflated with peaceful protesters.
    Seems to me this is stupid bullshit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    Seems to me this is stupid bullshit
    You are entitled to that opinion but I disagree

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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    Hmm thats weird because it seems to me you are the one unable to distinguish between the various parties. Anytime someone mentions enforcing the law vs rioters it immediately gets conflated with peaceful protesters.
    Maybe cause the police, or in this case federal agents, cant distinguish between *checks notes* white moms in bicycle helmets linking arms and violent rioters.

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    No day gets it hes just in contrarion mode. We've seen him commenting on clear police overreach the past month but its this specific one that he just doesn't seem to get, likely cause its Tuesday and were all bored

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    Maybe the moms shouldnt be linking arms with the rioters

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    On what grounds? You're not even talking about the same thing. Police are firing tear gas into crowds unprovoked, federal agents are authorized to arrest for pre-crime, tents filled with medical supplies are getting pepper sprayed, but the issue is that I'm conflating the response to rioters with peaceful protesters? Seems to me like it's the cops/feds doing that, and people on this board like guartz and HC are justifying it how I said, because everyone is a secret communist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    Maybe the moms shouldnt be linking arms with the rioters
    Are they dragging the moms with them when they riot? I've never rioted before, is it easier or harder with another person linked to each arm?

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    You know you can watch live streams and video that paint a better picture than a still photo in a vox article or getting your info from Day on BG

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    Or better yet, you can be like me and actually live here and see it in person...

    Feds have been tear gassing peaceful groups. 1 or 2 rioters have been meshing with the crowd throwing shit, so rather than extract, theyre just gassing everyone. Gassing a line of moms peacefully protesting is a super good look, let me tell you.

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