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    Which is exactly why your government needs to actually begin to support small businesses and people on unemployment as a result of covid and not just give tax breaks and stimulus' to the big corporations like they currently are.

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    AKA, don't re-elect Trump in November. And ideally get rid of the idiots like McConnell clogging up the Senate because of their selfish greed

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    You can't expect people to just adapt while hundreds of thousands of people are dying from a virus and hundreds of thousands more are suffering from long-term affects.

    Get that shit under control first and foremost. And after that learn to adapt to a new way of life. All while supporting the people and businesses most affected by the virus. Like the rest of the world has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D44kpunk View Post
    i don't think the economy will collapse, it will just shift. i also don't understand the idea that shutting things down only has an economic impact. people need work and purpose or their well beings suffer. despite the guys here singing unemployments praise that's human nature. sitting at home in your underwear eating cheetos and playing minecraft is not healthy

    ya'll act like shutting down your local BBQ joint is going to cause some 1k pt shift in the dow.

    nah.. the biggest companies in the world are actually making money during the pandemic(excpet maybe exxon?). this is really only hurting small business which is where the idea that we need to adapt/overcome comes into play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaspinne View Post
    Which is exactly why your government needs to actually begin to support small businesses and people on unemployment as a result of covid and not just give tax breaks and stimulus' to the big corporations like they currently are.
    thats not really what our country did, they gave everyone a flat 1200 dollars and then 600 dollars a week on top of unemployment averaging around 23.50 an hour. PPP was loans designed for small business and businesses had to meet certain criteria to be approved and for forgiveness. weve actually been incredibly generous so far for both small businesses and the unemployed

    the 600 dollar bonus ran out but hopefully the knuckleheads in congress can get something similar passed to extend that

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    Oh my bad. I only heard about the initial $1200 and saw headlines of zero accountability or transparency from the administration about who got the money from their small business relief plan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaspinne View Post
    You can't expect people to just adapt while hundreds of thousands of people are dying from a virus and hundreds of thousands more are suffering from long-term affects.

    Get that shit under control first and foremost. And after that learn to adapt to a new way of life. All while supporting the people and businesses most affected by the virus. Like the rest of the world has.
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    a certain amount of the loan has to go to payroll or it wont be forgiven, i think some dude tried to game it and bought a lambo and got owned and going to jail for a while, someone linked the story last week, seems like they are keeping a bit of an eye on it, im sure there is plenty of fraud happening but that is kind of inevitable

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    Yeah, it's the same situation up here with our CERB. Most people who are on it need it but there are definitely people taking advantage of it that don't

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    Weren't there alot of large companies, small businesses that were owned by other countries and churches that got PPP loans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by D44kpunk View Post
    i'm still confused how you're getting groceries if you are not interacting with anyone and not leaving your house.

    by proxy, having groceries delivered should be akin to getting takeout right?

    unless you're letting the groceries sit on your front step for a few hours before bringing them inside.

    what am i missing here @tymon
    I let them sit on the front step then bring them in and wipe down containers, wash produce, then wash my hands and arms. Don't really think you're missing anything. Packaged food means the food inside is not contaminated. Unless the virus can somehow phase through walls now, in which case then I guess I'm fucked.

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    if you dont know how to safely buy groceries 5 months into this i feel bad for you son

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    Quote Originally Posted by D44kpunk View Post
    ah yes, because the economy is the only thing that matters when talking about employment.



    years down the road probably then? can't see how a vaccine would be readily available and to the masses even if we had a 100% working one tomorrow
    yes years, I mean if you're looking at things rationally then you should have already accepted this.

    those who I associate with are as progressive about the virus as I am. after a vaccine is mobilized, we will all get vaccinated and then probably only associate with each other for likely a few years. but the days of going out are over, maybe for the long term. I truly and honestly do not give a single fuck about the economy. it was built on a bullshit capitalist model of garbage and deserves to go down in flames. hopefully enough sensible people survive to build something better afterwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tymon View Post
    I let them sit on the front step then bring them in and wipe down containers, wash produce, then wash my hands and arms. Don't really think you're missing anything. Packaged food means the food inside is not contaminated. Unless the virus can somehow phase through walls now, in which case then I guess I'm fucked.
    how long do you let them sit on the front step?

    this is odd, i feel like there is not a lot of things that can sit on your front step for hours on end that are healthy for you.

    you living off cereal?

    it's also boggling that a virus with at best a 2% mortality rate you think that's somehow going to wipe out all the undesirables? man.. you live in a different world than i do

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    30 seconds? covid doesn't magically transport off of surfaces into your body. you can wash it off.

    stop being obtuse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tymon View Post
    I let them sit on the front step then bring them in and wipe down containers, wash produce, then wash my hands and arms. Don't really think you're missing anything. Packaged food means the food inside is not contaminated. Unless the virus can somehow phase through walls now, in which case then I guess I'm fucked.
    this guy lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tymon View Post
    yes years, I mean if you're looking at things rationally then you should have already accepted this.

    those who I associate with are as progressive about the virus as I am. after a vaccine is mobilized, we will all get vaccinated and then probably only associate with each other for likely a few years. but the days of going out are over, maybe for the long term. I truly and honestly do not give a single fuck about the economy. it was built on a bullshit capitalist model of garbage and deserves to go down in flames. hopefully enough sensible people survive to build something better afterwards.

    enjoy the hot take
    The only people I see with this take are very self important and because it’s the biggest health concern they’ve experienced in their own lives means it’s of course going to be the most drastic case in history and will take decades to recover from.

    It’s ok dude. Stay home. Please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaspinne View Post
    The 50% capacity and parties as big as 10 is curious. Does the capacity also include distancing between tables as a requirement?
    Yeah distancing is required, my restaurant is pretty big so we can accommodate parties as big as 10.


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    Quote Originally Posted by D44kpunk View Post
    how long do you let them sit on the front step?

    this is odd, i feel like there is not a lot of things that can sit on your front step for hours on end that are healthy for you.

    you living off cereal?

    it's also boggling that a virus with at best a 2% mortality rate you think that's somehow going to wipe out all the undesirables? man.. you live in a different world than i do
    I get all my shit via instacart as well and then wash off some shit and scrub my hands and i'm gtg....how is that hard to grasp oh wait you're just being stupid to be stupid.

    2% mortality rate coupled with all the horrible shit it does to your body if you do survive? Unless you get it and are asymptomatic or it hits you super light you can expect to have some shit going on with you. But it's cool, if it doesn't kill you then it's fine!

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    Theres being careful, and then theres depriving your body of all forms of bacteria and letting your immune system go inert.

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