{COVID-19} Coronavirus Pandemic III: Second Wave Preperation

[Tyrath]

Does this make it sound like it would become something like the seasonal flu where we'd need a vaccine every year?

[Salodin]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN23T1CJ

One study says that antibody levels drop pretty rapidly post-COVID in both symptomatic and asymptomatic patients.

he median percentage decrease was more than 70% for both symptomatic and asymptomatic patients.
For neutralising serum antibodies, the median percentage of decrease for symptomatic individuals was 11.7%, while for asymptomatic individuals it was 8.3%.

Not great, but not the end of the world either. Also they only followed 37 asymptomatic and symptomatic people, so there's no reason to lose hope and think this is the new flu 2.0, but also this isnt news that should be making you feel better about where we're at with fighting this virus.

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[kuronosan]

Does this make it sound like it would become something like the seasonal flu where we'd need a vaccine every year?

I can ask my ID colleagues, but I imagine this to be likely. I have friends working in companies developing a vaccine and it's sounding promising.

Sal is pretty much right. No need to panic, per say, but not a good sign.

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[Gadritan]

I can ask my ID colleagues, but I imagine this to be likely. I have friends working in companies developing a vaccine and it's sounding promising.

Sal is pretty much right. No need to panic, per say, but not a good sign.

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Have they indicated any kind if realistic timeline on when they think it may be feasible, or is that still completely unknown?

I mean, we've heard the "company x is developing a vaccine and it sounds promising," since the first couple of months. Hard not to eyeroll every time I hear it, but I also have no way to gauge what kind of progress has been made given I'm not a medical professional.

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[kuronosan]

Have they indicated any kind if realistic timeline on when they think it may be feasible, or is that still completely unknown?

I mean, we've heard the "company x is developing a vaccine and it sounds promising," since the first couple of months. Hard not to eyeroll every time I hear it, but I also have no way to gauge what kind of progress has been made given I'm not a medical professional.

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I'll ask them today and get back with you on that.

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[Gadritan]

I'll ask them today and get back with you on that.

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Thanks brother

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[kuronosan]

Thanks brother

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Also I should point out that they submitted a trial paper for publication that I cannot share but has promising results (non humans of course).

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[Gadritan]

Makes sense. I know everyone has to keep it close to the vest.

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[kuronosan]

Makes sense. I know everyone has to keep it close to the vest.

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Spring next year, at the earliest, given no bullshit hiccups.

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[Gadritan]

Spring next year, at the earliest, given no bullshit hiccups.

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I was really thinking closer to a year and half or two. Anything earlier would be amazing.

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[Corrderio]

So if these antibody findings are true the whole herd immunity is a joke?

[kuronosan]

So if these antibody findings are true the whole herd immunity is a joke?

Not necessarily, it just means like most cold viruses the acute immune response is short lived. Until we hit a second wave of illness and people who have had it recover and get exposed again it's impossible to tell right now.

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[BerenTebogo]

Decent read summarizing some of the issues about Covid research reporting and other issues. Not a deep read, just a nice high level overview.


https://www.skepticalraptor.com/skep...s-not-science/

[Byrthnoth]

I mean, biology research couldn't have gotten much less accurate. Peer review was more of a formatting/credential check in that discipline anyway because experiments are prohibitively difficult to repeat so as long as someone doesn't mess up the analysis you have no viable way to judge the reality of their claim.

[fussel]

Via r/de on reddit: https://i.redd.it/s7ie5vr6so651.jpg

Uni Tuebingen and CureVac AG are looking for volunteers between 18 and 60 for a clinical trial for a COVID-19 vaccine.

There's supposed to be two doses and ten appointments over the course of 13 months.

Volunteers are supposed to get up to 1300 Euros for participation.

[BerenTebogo]

I mean, biology research couldn't have gotten much less accurate. Peer review was more of a formatting/credential check in that discipline anyway because experiments are prohibitively difficult to repeat so as long as someone doesn't mess up the analysis you have no viable way to judge the reality of their claim.

Do you want Bell Labs? Because this is how you get Bell Labs.

[archibaldcrane]

Mini thread

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/st...969589760?s=19

Bad day of reporting. Cases up, deaths flat, % of positive tests up despite more tests per day.

[Boyiee]

When after a positive nasal swab do they test for antibodies.

Got an inlaw that may be lying about being positive because there was an outbreak on her floor and is using it to get out of family stuff. NBD that's pretty clever but then she's saying she's not quarantining and is going to a car dealer and few other places tomorrow and trying for force her 60yr old sickly father to go with her which is not clever if she's positive.

[6souls]

https://www.axios.com/eu-american-tr...9948580cb.html

The EU will ban flights from the US beginning July 1st because the states have failed to curb the outbreak.

[Tyrath]

Look who is the shithole country now.