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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkster View Post
    If you’re trying to imply that Trump did a good thing by reducing regulations on medical procedures, again you don’t know the specifics of her case or her current treatment and how well it’s going. N=/= 1
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    Many drugs tested and used on people in developing nations lack any regulatory requirements or oversight.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...-world/273329/

    The WHO even states 1/10 tests are substandard.

    But if you think any and every new procedure should immediately be available without regulation or oversight then do you boo. Fight that fight.

    Also we went through a period of poor regulation of medical procedures and testing here in America and black and brown people did not do well. Plus that whole lack of consent and also lying to people about what was being done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavencloud View Post
    you guys are fucked up. show the full context. can you imagine trying to be persuaded to go through PAS and then being successfully treated (?cured idk her case)?
    Fucking LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkster View Post
    Many drugs tested and used on people in developing nations lack any regulatory requirements or oversight.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...-world/273329/

    The WHO even states 1/10 tests are substandard.

    But if you think any and every new procedure should immediately be available without regulation or oversight then do you boo. Fight that fight.

    Also we went through a period of poor regulation of medical procedures and testing here in America and black and brown people did not do well. Plus that whole lack of consent and also lying to people about what was being done.
    the fuck are you going on about? is the usa a developing nation? why are you linking that article? are you braindead?

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    Calm down D44k 2.0. You said you wanted less regulations and that fewer regulations is a good thing. Developing nations have few to no restrictions on medical procedures and clinical trials. You see the connections that are being made? Capitalism and 0 regulations would leave countless bodies in its wake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D44kpunk View Post
    what are you talking about? what does anything you've said in response to me so far have anything to do with the article i posted?
    Quote Originally Posted by Heavencloud View Post
    the fuck are you going on about? is the usa a developing nation? why are you linking that article? are you braindead?
    Lol you both post the same now.

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    Watching the full clip only makes me want HealthCare as a human right more, she's very convincing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    Watching the full clip only makes me want HealthCare as a human right more, she's very convincing.

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    yeah i could see it going that way for sure, editing the clip down to make a cancer survivor who's been through what she says seem insane though is disingenuous and embarassing. smh head 4souls

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    Is is just me or have the Republitards at this point decided that they know they're more than likely gonna lose and they've decided to just say fuck it and go Full Retard and Dial the bullshit up to 11?

    Because some of the stuff on the news here at home from their own mouths is so goddamn ridiculious that they were just this short of saying "Hitler Hold my beer".

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    i mean, it's worked for them so far...

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    It’d be really cool during the the RNC, they could update their platform with their healthcare plan. I will never understand how after ten years of complaining about ACA. We still don’t have a proposed replacement plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carlweathers View Post
    It’d be really cool during the the RNC, they could update their platform with their healthcare plan. I will never understand how after ten years of complaining about ACA. We still don’t have a proposed replacement plan.
    what if it's more effective to complain about the opposition's implementation rather than propose further reform

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infini View Post
    Is is just me or have the Republitards at this point decided that they know they're more than likely gonna lose and they've decided to just say fuck it and go Full Retard and Dial the bullshit up to 11?

    Because some of the stuff on the news here at home from their own mouths is so goddamn ridiculious that they were just this short of saying "Hitler Hold my beer".
    Why stop? Its worked for them since the Tea Party was formed. Double, triple, quadruple down. Turn the dogwhistle into a dog foghorn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roranora View Post
    what if it's more effective to complain about the opposition's implementation rather than propose further reform

    Thats pretty abhorrent considering how important healthcare is.

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    can i get a fact check on her claim

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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    can i get a fact check on her claim

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavencloud View Post
    yes
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    Reducing regulations is...a bad idea...again aren't you some type of "doctor"? Or just a dentist?

    Now I will admit there are certain things that are just complete bullshit bureaucracy steps and that stuff is annoying as fuck, especially when even in 2020 things are not digital or require weeks/months to get stamped approval on them and have giant committee meetings for discernible reason.

    Now in context of that video what Trump deregulations is she talking about? Also even if a treatment isn't approved fully by the FDA aren't you allowed to sign up for clinical trials on your own? Or was this with her insurance covering it?

    https://www.brookings.edu/interactiv...the-trump-era/

    Assuming this one

    New guidance documents outlining a process for fast-tracking gene and cell therapies through FDA review.

    On November 16, 2017, the FDA issued two final guidances and two draft guidances outlining a new process for fast-tracking gene and cell therapy treatments through the FDA approval process. Established gene and cell
    Since all the others are just medicare stuff or religious stuff and a bunch are delayed/repealed on the list

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meresgi View Post
    Reducing regulations is...a bad idea...again aren't you some type of "doctor"? Or just a dentist?

    Now I will admit there are certain things that are just complete bullshit bureaucracy steps and that stuff is annoying as fuck, especially when even in 2020 things are not digital or require weeks/months to get stamped approval on them and have giant committee meetings for discernible reason.

    Now in context of that video what Trump deregulations is she talking about? Also even if a treatment isn't approved fully by the FDA aren't you allowed to sign up for clinical trials on your own? Or was this with her insurance covering it?

    https://www.brookings.edu/interactiv...the-trump-era/

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    Since all the others are just medicare stuff or religious stuff and a bunch are delayed/repealed on the list
    i dont see the problem with trying medications that have mechanistically probable chances of success in people who are terminally ill.

    and what the fuck is wrong with dentists?

    for your 7777th post, this is weak man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavencloud View Post
    you guys are fucked up. show the full context. can you imagine trying to be persuaded to go through PAS and then being successfully treated (?cured idk her case)?
    I finally had a chance to watch this, this is actually hilarious and eye-roll worthy

    I’m SURE she was told she was a burden on her country, fucking lol

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