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    my favorite voter turnout stat is the 6.3% that showed for our first election in 1792

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    Pff? You voted?

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    Tryin it out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    Even if we assume PR would be solidly blue and also added DC, which surely would be, the Senate is still biased towards Republicans if you add up vote totals.

    Tbf the only hope for a liberal policy agenda is:
    1) win both georgia runoffs
    2) make DC and PR states
    3) elect liberal senators there and seat them this term
    4) now Manchin isn't the middle anymore and we can get some shit done
    You'd have to get PR to agree to become a state via referendum first, which as of this week is not entirely clear. "Yes" won, but with low turnout (again)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andalusian girls View Post
    voting is literally a feminine trait
    Fellas is it gay to be engaged in the political process

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    Fellas is it gay to be engaged in the political process

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    You'd be surprised how many zoomers/millenials would honestly say yes to this

    Actually you probably wouldn't be surprised. Just depressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
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    Its gay to expect any change.

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    Voting is just picking whos gonna fuck you over.

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    picking with whom you want to have sex is deeply homosexual

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    Assuming DC and PR statehood, I wouldn't put it past deeply red states to decide to split just to recoup the seat gap the next time there's any inkling of GOP majority.

    But yeah, fuck Manchin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    Fellas is it gay to be engaged in the political process

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    Only if you take me out to brunch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    Even if we assume PR would be solidly blue and also added DC, which surely would be, the Senate is still biased towards Republicans if you add up vote totals.

    Tbf the only hope for a liberal policy agenda is:
    1) win both georgia runoffs
    2) make DC and PR states
    3) elect liberal senators there and seat them this term
    4) now Manchin isn't the middle anymore and we can get some shit done
    The best thing about this is we're not assuming Manchin isn't going to fuck up step #2

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    I think you can make a compelling pro-democracy argument for DC and PR to become states that Manchin could defend to his base.

    Unlike some maneuver like splitting california to get more Senate seats, DC and PR are taxed and have no representation at the moment. Hard to get a more defensible amurikan justification that that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirious View Post
    The voter apathy party, the true challenge. Without writing a book, no way to fix it. Can't have third party you either steal votes from D and R wins 100% of the time, or vice versa. So we'll never have someone that can motivate all those "don't care" voters.
    I think the most practical way is to make it convenient by mailing an absentee ballot to everyone. Some people can't be bothered to set it up to request one, and don't want the hassle of traveling to the polling place then waiting in line for an hour. Most of the blue states did this.

    https://ballotpedia.org/All-mail_vot...ballot_systems

    Also how the fuck are we supposed to "build the wall" if Puerto Rico becomes a state???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwynplaine View Post
    I think the most practical way is to make it convenient by mailing an absentee ballot to everyone. Some people can't be bothered to set it up to request one, and don't want the hassle of traveling to the polling place then waiting in line for an hour. Most of the blue states did this.

    https://ballotpedia.org/All-mail_vot...ballot_systems

    Also how the fuck are we supposed to "build the wall" if Puerto Rico becomes a state???
    Seriously can we just mail everyone ballots and also just send out mail that says "Yo bitch you owe (x) in taxes".....fucking christ this country

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    Can't steal more money from people if taxes aren't obfuscated.

    And can't get people to vote, no matter how easy the process is, when they feel there is no point. There's no one really representing "the people". Asshole 1 or Asshole 2. White old guy, or other white old guy. Rich guy or other rich guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirious View Post
    And can't get people to vote, no matter how easy the process is, when they feel there is no point. There's no one really representing "the people". Asshole 1 or Asshole 2. White old guy, or other white old guy. Rich guy or other rich guy.
    Frequently this is fairly true, but in this election I think the stark contrast was sharp enough to motivate the high numbers we're seeing. An old standard politician rich white guy who's kind of cringey sometimes, versus an absolutely unpredictable megalomaniac who praises dictators and disdains protestors. That's not exactly Clinton vs. Dole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirious View Post
    There's no one really representing "the people". Asshole 1 or Asshole 2. White old guy, or other white old guy. Rich guy or other rich guy.
    Let's not excuse willful ignorance. Even if Biden is a rich, old, white guy there's a stark contrast between his messaging and the other guy's.

    Also? Biden was like the poorest guy in the Senate his entire career coming from modest blue collar roots before law school.

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    His messaging was just "im not the other guy"

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    at this point, did we really need much more? the bar is pretty fucking low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    His messaging was just "im not the other guy"
    "I'm going to kill 230,000 of you."

    "I'm not that guy."

    Sounds like that should be pretty fucking convincing.

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