#46: Episode VI: Return of the Neolibs

[Gwynplaine]

https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/stat...bVPm3EkZjMMcNg

Yep as expected here come the potential Republican law suits to stop student loan reform.

The era of needing to ask law professor to interpret legal mythology and the personal quibbles of individual justices to figure out how the Supreme Court would rule in partisan cases ended a while ago. It is going to be 3/6 against or 4/5 against depending on whether Roberts feels he needs to pretend that the Supreme Court is nonpartisan, but either way it will be against. Get the money while you can, folks.

I don't know what standing they are suing under or what remedy they are asking for, but you might be okay if you get the money ASAP.

That's the thing it's unclear where any standing could come from since A. it hasn't happened yet, and B. who the fuck is complaining about having loans forgiven? People seem to be best guessing it would come from a bank complaining about not being able to charge as much as they otherwise could have. Unfortunately until we fix SCOTUS it all just comes back to the fact that Republicans can basically just make up whatever the fuck they want with no legal consistency.

Someone pointed out a Slate article outlining a potential backup plan B.
https://twitter.com/Mangy_Dog/status...bVPm3EkZjMMcNg

If SCOTUS doesn't allow for mass generic student loan cancellation they may be able to offer financial difficulty assistance on an individual scale.

Trump’s education secretary Betsy Devos tried to stop Biden from embracing it. She solicited a memo arguing that the Heroes Act does not permit “mass cancellation” of student debt. (In a twist, the memo was issued four days after DeVos resigned in protest of Jan. 6, and it violated basic procedural requirements.)
It’s an open question whether anyone can sue against Biden’s program in the first place.

Under Biden, the Department of Education concluded that DeVos’ eleventh-hour memo was wrong, and that the agency can provide mass student loan cancellation because of the ongoing pandemic. The Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel agreed.

One last thing: It’s an open question whether anyone can sue against Biden’s program in the first place. In a persuasive and prescient analysis published this year in the Virginia Law Review, Jack V. Hoover argued that no one has standing to file suit against sweeping loan cancellation. To prove standing, a party would have to demonstrate concrete harm to them, and show how blocking cancellation would remedy that harm. Republicans complain that Biden’s program hurts taxpayers, but under Supreme Court precedent, taxpayers don’t have standing to sue.

Biden can simply announce that any borrower affected by the pandemic can apply for relief; if they can prove hardship, their debts get canceled. The Heroes Act, of course, says such “case-by-case” adjudication is unnecessary. And this method would increase administrative burdens while shrinking the pool of beneficiaries, since some eligible borrowers will fail to apply. But it would still help millions of people who will be in dire need to support when student loan payments resume in 2023. (There’s a direct analogy to Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe restoring felon voting rights one person at a time after the Virginia Supreme Court wouldn’t let him do it all at once.)

In any case until we take back the Supreme Court from these fascist anarcho-capitalist pawns all presidential and Congressional power is limited and only goes so far.

[Forte]

I didn't watch the speech so I can't talk about it's contents but...

https://twitter.com/iShid29/status/1565527104543924226

Whoever choose the lighting here should be fired.

[Tymon]

Who's gonna draft the Dark Brandon theme song?

[kuronosan]

[Imperial March]
Dark Bran-don is a meme, live the dream.
Bi-den will can-cel debt don't forget.
Trump stole all of the doc-u-ments,
Hit walls up with con-di-ments,
So please vote for me, vote for me.

[Andalusian girls]

so not Kuro

[NynJa]

Remember when someone said Kuro was funnier than me?

[Meresgi]

I just don't get what cancelling the student debt forgiveness gets them, who are the playing to? Are we all supposed to be Marc Rubio and get elected to congress and hire a ghostwriter to publish us a book to pay off our student loans?

[archibaldcrane]

https://twitter.com/gilbertjasono/st...S_kNbj9rg&s=19

[Forte]

I just don't get what cancelling the student debt forgiveness gets them, who are the playing to? Are we all supposed to be Marc Rubio and get elected to congress and hire a ghostwriter to publish us a book to pay off our student loans?

The ones who didn't go to college, and the ones who did go but paid off their loans or never had loans in the first place.

So the super rich and the super poor. The super rich just want to stick it to everyone else, and the super poor are too stupid to understand.

[Fiye]

[Imperial March]
Dark Bran-don is a meme, live the dream.
Bi-den will can-cel debt don't forget.
Trump stole all of the doc-u-ments,
Hit walls up with con-di-ments,
So please vote for me, vote for me.

This is the worst thing I've ever read.

[Day]

terrible

[Salodin]

I just don't get what cancelling the student debt forgiveness gets them, who are the playing to?

You...don't see why this might be popular with certain demographics?

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[Zealot]

The ones who didn't go to college, and the ones who did go but paid off their loans or never had loans in the first place.

So the super rich and the super poor. The super rich just want to stick it to everyone else, and the super poor are too stupid to understand.

I also correlate wealth to intelligence.

[kuronosan]

This is the worst thing I've ever read.

The worst thing so far.

Remember when someone said Kuro was funnier than me?

No one said that with any measure of sincerity.

[Day]

I also correlate wealth to intelligence.

Dude must be poor or something

[NynJa]

No one said that with any measure of sincerity.

I mean, I believe it was Forte or Spicy if my memory serves me correctly, so that last part is a given.

[Dimmauk]

I didn't watch the speech so I can't talk about it's contents but...

https://twitter.com/iShid29/status/1565527104543924226

Whoever choose the lighting here should be fired.

My wife said the same thing this morning.

"Who the fuck thought red lighting was a good idea?"

"Honey, our country is on Red Alert"

"Looks like he is in the Red light district"

"I need coffee "

[synistar]

What's worse is that it shifted towards pink about halfway through. Something Pinko Bastards.

[Spicyryan]

What's worse is that it shifted towards pink about halfway through. Something Pinko Bastards.

Did it at least get one in the stink then?

[Forte]

I mean, I believe it was Forte or Spicy if my memory serves me correctly, so that last part is a given.

I don't recall saying that at all.