{COVID-19} My Body, My Choice V: We HaD tHe CuRe In FeBrUaRy

[kuronosan]

Talk to your doctor:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskDocs/com...covid_vaccine/

Doctor: "My doctor was unable to tell me if I should get the vaccine or not. He basically said it is up to me, a personal decision. "

I will talk to some of my colleagues to see if I can get you an answer.

[zoobernut]

Again based on what you are saying it is all anecdotal and not anything large enough to warrant a response from the CDC. My wife hasn't had a similar issue nor has she had any friends with that issue. Her first response was "Its stress".

Also she said that it is important to remember that if your period is off due to a stress event like getting a vaccine it can take at least one extra cycle to go back to normal so it wouldn't be a concern unless your cycle was off for three periods. (Based on her personal experiences and talking with her dr).

The website to report symptoms is vsafe.cdc.gov sign up and then they ask you to check in each day with the symptoms that you are experiencing. The best way to get attention to symptoms like this is to report it to the people who would like to hear about it.

[Ksandra]

So because you wife and friends haven’t had this issue it must not be important? I have so far link a report of Israel looking into due to women reports and women reporting it on Reddit. What is the percentage criteria to care about something?

And again I think people seem to be obtuse to the issue.


If women are reporting this and doctors and the CDC aren’t addressing it, you are going to find more and more women passing on getting the vaccine. THAT is the issue. They (experts) are not bothering to build trust in this area.

[Ksandra]

If I had been in the position where I was preggo and debating on the shot and: doctor says it’s my own decision, cdc says nothing, and the only answers you get is, “it’s probably just stress.” I probably wouldn’t be taking it either.


Again, I got the shot. I had nothing to lose. But a preggo woman does have something to lose, so it’s different in that situation. You don’t need to convince me of anything. You do need to realize they aren’t bothering to convince certain women of anything, though.

[Corrderio]

Is it possible to feel crappy a few days after the first vaccine? Felt crappy today and not sure if it could be from that or stess/cold.

[zoobernut]

So because you wife and friends haven’t had this issue it must not be important? I have so far link a report of Israel looking into due to women reports and women reporting it on Reddit. What is the percentage criteria to care about something?

And again I think people seem to be obtuse to the issue.


If women are reporting this and doctors and the CDC aren’t addressing it, you are going to find more and more women passing on getting the vaccine. THAT is the issue. They (experts) are not bothering to build trust in this area.

No I am saying that your anecdotal evidence doesn't carry any more weight than someone else's anecdotal evidence. You have confirmation bias right now. Also how do you know that enough women are reporting this to Dr's and the CDC to hit the threshold where they think this is a universal enough issue to address publicly and widely? How do you know they aren't looking into it internally already and haven't gathered enough information yet to make a statement?

You don't know how the CDC works internally or what discussions are taking place internally about this issue. You also as an individual have no top down view of how common or uncommon this issue is. To demand that they address it without knowing those things doesn't make any sense.

I am not sure why you are bringing up pregnancy and the shot right now I was only addressing your concerns over the shots effect on your period, regularity and when it shows up etc.

[kuronosan]

Biggest problem I have with the tone of those posts is the broad assumption that it's not being talked about or investigated.

[Ksandra]

It’s not an assumption, you couldn’t even post an article about it. If it was being talked about publicly by officials then we could google it.

[Ksandra]

I never said it wasn’t being investigated, I said it’s not being publicly addressed outside of Israel.

[kuronosan]

And all you have is reddit. What in the absolute fuck. At least I have access to journals.

Edit: and according to said journals it is being studied outside of Israel. Trials are ongoing that are investigating possible links and side effects in women.

[Ksandra]

And all you have is reddit. What in the absolute fuck. At least I have access to journals.

Edit: and according to said journals it is being studied outside of Israel. Trials are ongoing that are investigating possible links and side effects in women.

Dude you aren't paying attention, it's like talking to a brick wall.

I am saying that info isn't readily available to people. Took you several pages even to bring that up with you even stating you had to ask your colleagues.

I am talking about how readily available that is to the average person to help make a decision.

I am not arguing that it isn't being studied, I am arguing they aren't making public statements about it. This is not that hard. Google it and show me the thousands of news articles talking about your journals; otherwise, you are not paying attention to what I am saying.

[Ksandra]

You have confirmation bias right now.

My "confirmation bias" on it not being publicly talked about from the average person is from googling it and only pulling up literally two articles about Isreal looking into it.

No idea what your beef is over anecdotal evidence. You are trying to prove it doesn't exist because it didn't happen to your wife. I am proving it does exist because it happened to me. I no where stated the percentage it happens to, just gave evidence that I wasn't the only one.


And again, ad nauseum, my argument is not that it's bad, it's that it's not being publicly talked about by officials, outside the one Israel article.

[Andalusian girls]

ksandra: huh this vaccine did something wonky to my cycle i wonder if this issue is being studied

every man in this thread: how dare you

[Ksandra]

ksandra: huh this vaccine did something wonky to my cycle i wonder if this issue is being studied

every man in this thread: how dare you

I don't want to be that person, but I appreciate you.

[thetruepandagod]

yet another reason for me to delay getting the vaccine

[synistar]

It isn't readily available because there is not enough data to make a solid conclusion. These vaccines are released under Emergency Use Authorizations. From the FDA's site:

An Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) is one of several tools the FDA is using to help make certain medical products available quickly during the COVID-19 pandemic. In certain emergencies, the FDA can issue an EUA to provide access to medical products that may potentially be used when there are no adequate, approved, and available options.

The EUA process is different than an FDA approval or clearance. Under an EUA, in an emergency, the FDA makes a product available to the public based on the best available evidence, without waiting for all the evidence that would be needed for FDA approval or clearance.

When evaluating an EUA, we carefully balance the potential risks and benefits of the products based on the data currently available.

EUAs are effective until the emergency declaration ends. EUAs can also be revised or revoked by the FDA at any time as we continue to evaluate the available data and patient needs during the public health emergency.

Yes, all the regulatory bodies are continuing to collect side effect data points and analyzing it. If there is a significant potentially lethal side effect then a public statement will be released - See EU countries today suspending Oxford-AstraZeneca's vaccine for two weeks after cases of blood clotting and a death being investigated.

If we waited for FDA approval that detailed all the side effects, vaccinations would have been delayed another year. We're all data points right now taking a vaccine that no one knows everything about.

[Ksandra]

I didn't ask for fda approval. y'all putting words in my mouth. All I said was I understood why someone wouldn't get the vax because officials haven't addressed it. That's it. Don't be thinking to hard about this.

[synistar]

You asked why side effects in women or risks to pregnant women are not being discussed publicly by regulators. I was answering there isn't enough data and we're all guinea pigs.

Plus the intake clerks at the vaccine sites would get a physician consult to discuss the risks if someone answered if they are pregnant or breastfeeding. At least that's what happens at Kaiser.

[Ksandra]

You asked why side effects in women or risks to pregnant women are not being discussed publicly by regulators. I was answering there isn't enough data and we're all guinea pigs.

I never asked why. I just said what it is and that until they discuss it I can't fault a woman for not taking the risk.


[edit] Listen, I really think people are just taking this too far.

ALL I was saying is "Hey, my period dun got fucked up after the vax, and I have read about it happening to other women, too. No one is officially talking about it publicly, so I can understand why a woman would be hesitant to not take it." That's it. Nothing more than that. And I was told:

1. Those women are idiots.
2. I'm lying and it doesn't happen.
3. I want answers NOW.
4. I don't understand the science behind my period.


None of which are true. I am just showing empathy to women who are nervous. Nothing wrong with that.

[Tomiko]

yet another reason for me to delay getting the vaccine

You're pregnant/trying to get pregnant?