117th United States Congress: Insurrection 2021

[Lucavi]

Should just use the DoD’s zip code system for BAH and just be done with it.

This. Its not hard to factor in cost of living when you can simply look up property values by Zip Code and use them as an approximation. You'd clearly see that the average mortgage costing $2,900 in NY vs the average mortgage costing $900 in rural GA (made up numbers) would result in a different bracket for who gets what.

That's the problem with humanity, though. Context is rarely applied because it requires additional work and brainpower, and it usually leads to less valid points being made. People want to push an agenda, but its very hard to when you start applying actual context to a situation.

Some moron crying that 50k is tons to live off of who lives in bumfuck Detroit will lose their perceived high-ground extremely quickly when context (location-based cost-of-living) is applied... so they simply don't apply said context.

[Gadritan]

I think part of the point of doing it the way they are is to cast a wide enough net that families who need it won't be missed.

Or are we going to pretend the government could roll out a nuanced child care credit that takes into account all of these variables without completely fucking up?

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[Krandor]

Should just use the DoD’s zip code system for BAH and just be done with it.

This generally works but is not great in heavy vacation areas.

BAH was absolute garbage when I was stationed in Cape Cod due to transfer season being in the summer (when prices are sky high), but the BAH eval is done in late fall/early winter (when prices are substantially lower).

[Yabby]

This. Its not hard to factor in cost of living when you can simply look up property values by Zip Code and use them as an approximation. You'd clearly see that the average mortgage costing $2,900 in NY vs the average mortgage costing $900 in rural GA (made up numbers) would result in a different bracket for who gets what.

That's the problem with humanity, though. Context is rarely applied because it requires additional work and brainpower, and it usually leads to less valid points being made. People want to push an agenda, but its very hard to when you start applying actual context to a situation.

Some moron crying that 50k is tons to live off of who lives in bumfuck Detroit will lose their perceived high-ground extremely quickly when context (location-based cost-of-living) is applied... so they simply don't apply said context.

Two reasons I don't think they would ever do it, as easy as it would be.

1. You can't fit the plan in a sound bite, thus it would be easy to manipulate.
2. High cost of living areas tend to be in heavy democrat areas (Big cities), and thus the right would use that to say they hate red states, etc.

[kuronosan]

They're going to say that anyway.

[Tymon]

There's not really a lot wrong with saying you hate red states, given by and large they are >90% subhuman trash shitholes by population areas. It's called flyover country for a reason. I say this as someone who lives in one.

[archibaldcrane]

Stares in map of black population

[Tymon]

Stares back in Jim Crow

[Salodin]

Stares in map of black population

Stares back in Jim Crow

Y'all got a chuckle at 4:30am

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[Day]

if a red state turns blue they are suddenly not dumb rednecks and you no longer have to ignore the millions of minorities that live there, thems the rules

[Day]

Y'all got a chuckle at 4:30am

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^ dum redneck that lives in a red state lol, trying moving. to a blue state like NC

[kuronosan]

There's not really a lot wrong with saying you hate red states, given by and large they are >90% subhuman trash shitholes by population areas. It's called flyover country for a reason. I say this as someone who lives in one.

So you hated Georgia until January? The dissonance is strong here. At what point is it okay to like a red state?

[Day]

kuro you dont get it, it makes perfect sense to judge people by arbitrary geographical lines then bring up jim crow

[Uzor]

What you start to get into is what are called "welfare cliffs" where, for example, a $17/hr worker doesn't want the promotion to $20/hr manager because the added income makes them lose the child allowance for her 3 kids. You see this a lot with Medicaid.

Poverty reduction is the most important immediate benefit of a child allowance, but more broadly it should be understood as a policy to accomplish "income smoothing" over a life cycle, instead of putting acute financial pain on parents early in their careers and then alleviating it as they get into their peak earning years. Most parents don't earn money when they need it the most, and a child allowance shifts money from higher childless earners to lower earners with children - usually in the same lifespan.

See, this is absurd to me. In Sweden, everyone with kids get the same amount child allowance (although it varies depending on how many kids you get) regardless of your income.

On another note, it's also illegal to not take 5 weeks of vacation every year as a full-time worker. While it won't land you in jail or lead to any consequences as a Swede, you can actually lose your visa and get thrown out of Sweden as an immigrant for not taking 5 weeks of vacation.

[kuronosan]

I imagine in Sweden workers are valued. Here in the US, workers are disposable commodities.

[archibaldcrane]

See, this is absurd to me. In Sweden, everyone with kids get the same amount child allowance (although it varies depending on how many kids you get) regardless of your income.

To be clear I'm exaggerating the effects of more aggressively targeting a child allowance for the poor. Our current small child tax credit starts to phase out at 200k/400k which is the top 5% of households, and Biden's proposed expansion would start to phase out at 112.5k/150k.

We do, however, have benefits like Medicaid that have extremely strict low income cutoffs that are even more insane than the hypothetical I posted.

[Melena]

Yeah, didn't bane have to blow his entire savings just so he could qualify due to his Crohn's?

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[Roranora]

isn't the limit around 10k/year?

what a financial snare that must be

[archibaldcrane]

Pretty based tbh

https://twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/stat...800441857?s=19

[Salodin]

Give people an extra 33% in their finances and watch how fast they vote blue let's goooo

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