The Stock Market Is Not The Economy Thread II

[archibaldcrane]

What are people's rationales behind not looking for a job now? You probably aren't going to die from covid if you go to work and there are clearly plenty of jobs to be had

The conditionless unemployment needs to end at some point

I got the vaccine on the absolute first day it was offered. I won't be fully vaccinated until the end of the month.

But by the time everyone who wants a vaccine can get one and be fully vaccinated, the rationale for the federal UI boost is significantly lessened.

[archibaldcrane]

What's funny is that teen employment is soaring, because they weren't getting UI but are jumping on the higher wages being offered.

[6souls]

I got the vaccine on the absolute first day it was offered. I won't be fully vaccinated until the end of the month.

[archibaldcrane]

?

April 15th was the earliest I could get my first shot.

[6souls]

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April 15th was the earliest I could get my first shot.

K. It's recommended to get your second shot scheduled within three weeks. I got my first April 10th and my second May 1st.

[synistar]

Moderna. so it's 6 weeks for full vaccination. June/July employment numbers should bump by then.

[6souls]

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[archibaldcrane]

K. It's recommended to get your second shot scheduled within three weeks. I got my first April 10th and my second May 1st.

They wouldn't let me schedule my second Moderna shot until a full month after the first

Then wait two weeks and voila.

Hopefully that clears up your confusion

[archibaldcrane]

Moderna. so it's 6 weeks for full vaccination. June/July employment numbers should bump by then.

People will still take higher paying UI over dead end low wage work through August if they can.

[arus2001]

I'll just generally gravitate toward points I'd made back when lockdowns were kicking in and such. The "essential worker" tag line was basically GOP spin on all these low wage workers and how we must absolutely keep them around so the country doesn't implode. Of course, raising pay was fought against tooth and nail (including hazard provisions), mandates were never really enforced on the employee or customer level, some were lucky enough to not get fired if infected (though considerations for long covid seem largely an afterthought), and now we're looking at a scenario where a not-insignificant portion of the country still isn't vaccinated, including children, with the concept of herd immunity basically being a pipe dream. It's easy to say we're ready to open up because numbers are down, but part of that is precisely because some people are still choosing to take this seriously and want a guaranteed safer environment to return to.

Pragmatically, however, this isn't far removed from my own belief that $25/hr should be the minimum wage, workers need more time off/leave options, WFH options need to remain normalized for applicable jobs, and that we need socialized healthcare/vision/dental to decouple such from work. These were all issues that existed before the pandemic, it just merely forced its hand. But we also can't forget the ever-advancing stride of automation and how some of these "essential worker" jobs may not even exist years from now. I'd say we're in a soft strike of sorts, but the advantage does lie with the old ways once the aid dries up. Of course, that just endorses the argument that maybe we do need to start considering UBI if employers won't adapt.

[Roranora]

K. It's recommended to get your second shot scheduled within three weeks. I got my first April 10th and my second May 1st.

hope we got some Pedantry skillups for this

[archibaldcrane]

You have to be technically right to get those though

[archibaldcrane]

https://twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/stat...841306627?s=19

https://twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/stat...575755780?s=19

[archibaldcrane]

https://twitter.com/pearkes/status/1...730975747?s=19

[Cantih]

CA, so the current minimum is $14/hr, but last month I went past a Harbor Freight that had hiring at $19/hr on the front window.

[Salodin]

https://twitter.com/PplPolicyProj/st...121942531?s=19

Until schools and day cares open up, and people have a way to pay for them, I doubt well see any Mission Accomplished banners anytime soon.

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[archibaldcrane]

Pretty sure most day cares didn't close and most schools are fully open now.

[Kaslo]

Pretty sure most day cares didn't close

Yeah they did

[Salodin]

Pretty sure most day cares didn't close and most schools are fully open now.

Idk how your schools were closed for as long as they were but day cares weren't.

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[archibaldcrane]

Idk how your schools were closed for as long as they were but day cares weren't.

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they were dubbed essential so they weren't ordered to close, although there were some occupancy requirements/other stuff

Basically they didn't want to lose other essential workers from the workforce because they lost their child care arrangements

seems like a pattern for most states: https://hunt-institute.org/covid-19-...ions-covid-19/

Don't get me wrong, a lot of day cares closed due to lack of staff, lack of clients, or inability or unwillingness to comply with enhanced hygiene and occupancy restrictions

but actual government-mandated closures were rare

(when I said they didn't close, what I meant was they weren't forced to by the state)