FFXIV 6.0: Endwalker (December 7, 2021)

[Uzor]

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not really interested in doing too many back-n-forths, because everything is so subjective and open to interpretation, but things I took away differently:

1) I think "power of feelings" is a bit of an oversimplification. It's a fundamental force of the universe that seems to only interact with the spirit. You can call it a trope, but I'd call it a concept so thoroughly ingrained in actual humans that it's a hard thing to judge for being put into a fantasy narrative

2) While I understand how the sacrifices can seem weightless, I think they're only so if you ignore that Emet Selch and Hythlodeous had to sacrifice the portion of their being that permitted them to linger. Had they not done so, we would have lost everyone else. I also think that it wouldn't be an issue at all had we not gone into the expansion expecting a scion to die, but I suppose that's the trailer's fault

3) Like I said before, going too cosmic is dangerous and they definitely need to be careful going forward, by importantly it wasn't some omnipotent cosmic figure that we defeated. A character with a relatively unimpressive power level just so happened to be finely tuned to control something that put us at a serious disadvantage. I think it only feels too grand and cosmic because she set up shop on the "edge of the universe". If anything, the direction they've taken since ShB is pretty brilliant. Before then, we were under the impression that we were in the midst of a battle between two actual gods. That's a runaway-cosmos if I've ever seen one.

4) Dunno what to really say about the last bit. I loved everything you hated. Some of my favorite parts of this expansion were moments of quality time with the scions, and I was ecstatic that Zenos's arc ended the way it did. Different strokes.

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What I do like about them going cosmos this expansion, is that it pretty much outright stated that we are alone in the universe right now. All other planets with advanced civilizations are gone. They also hinted at what's to come.

For example, exploring the state Meracydia is in, the golden cities of the new world, the spread-out city states of the island nations, the different civilizations spread out across the shards.

Y'shtola said that her new purpose in life is trying to find a way to travel the shards and explore them, which heavily hints that Y'shtola will figure out a way to do that and introduce us to other shards. Whether that happens before we explore the other nations of the source is unclear, but it definitely opens the door to bringing Ryne into the source, saving the 13th from darkness, and so much more.

Either way, it's likely pretty much all future content will take place only on our planet and its various shards.

[Dotsudoku]

agreed, very happy with that direction

[Lyltia]

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Is it ever outright stated that all other life is extinguished? I got the impression that everything she found was dead or dying, not that everything that exists was dead or dying. The Omega dungeon even confirms that the Omicron civilization is still alive out there. I agree that it would definitely be better from a storytelling perspective if it were the latter.

[Dotsudoku]

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Don't believe so. I think we're just intended to take the latter from the former.

Also I was in a flu daze when I did the Omega dungeon. Wasn't that all inside of that one robot? Guess I should run that again

[Gokulo]

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I think it was implied by what Vrtra said - that when Midgardsormr was travelling through space ours was the last planet with life he found?

[Dotsudoku]

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yeah, "last beacon of hope" I think was the term he used. Sounds like they're heavily implying that we're all that's out there, but leaving it open ended just in case

[Corrderio]

Got all my tanks to 90. Really love the QoL updates WAR/DRK/GNB got.

Also were beastmen tribe quests released this patch or a later? Looked around the zones and can't find any quests to unlock them.

[Gokulo]

Got all my tanks to 90. Really love the QoL updates WAR/DRK/GNB got.

Also were beastmen tribe quests released this patch or a later? Looked around the zones and can't find any quests to unlock them.

First tribe is always released in the x.1 patch

[Corrderio]

Ah my bad. Guess I need to wait for a space bun minion.

[Anoat]

Speaking of Loporitts they are responsible for imo the funniest moment in this expansion

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Urianger giving them all a pep talk about how their names show how important they are and then being like yo what’s your name and that bunny being like MY NAME IS PUDDINGWAY and Urianger being like uhhhh well pudding is nice

[Kaslo]

Speaking of Loporitts they are responsible for imo the funniest moment in this expansion

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Urianger giving them all a pep talk about how their names show how important they are and then being like yo what’s your name and that bunny being like MY NAME IS PUDDINGWAY and Urianger being like uhhhh well pudding is nice

There is also this: https://clips.twitch.tv/DaintySillyE...BOGvfBi5omYElH

Reviews starting to trickle out:

https://twitter.com/GamesRadar/statu...633539084?s=20

[Gokulo]

So just noticed this about Trusts in Avatar mode - if they were 80 in ShB they will be bumped up to 81 to immediately do dungeons, but if they were below you need to level them to 80 in ShB dungeons first, at which point they automatically level to 81 too

[Lyltia]

Speaking of Loporitts they are responsible for imo the funniest moment in this expansion

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Urianger giving them all a pep talk about how their names show how important they are and then being like yo what’s your name and that bunny being like MY NAME IS PUDDINGWAY and Urianger being like uhhhh well pudding is nice

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"Then there was the lemon. The deceiver. I still feel so violated..."

"More lemon!? Have I not suffered enough?"

"Very well, lemon muffin! Do your worst!"

Pretty much every interaction with them is gold

[Kaslo]

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"Then there was the lemon. The deceiver. I still feel so violated..."

"More lemon!? Have I not suffered enough?"

"Very well, lemon muffin! Do your worst!"

Pretty much every interaction with them is gold

https://clips.twitch.tv/DifferentMol...BYl8k6bPRZzpjZ

[Uzor]

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Is it ever outright stated that all other life is extinguished? I got the impression that everything she found was dead or dying, not that everything that exists was dead or dying. The Omega dungeon even confirms that the Omicron civilization is still alive out there. I agree that it would definitely be better from a storytelling perspective if it were the latter.

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It’s never outright stated but it is heavily imploed. Metreion saw planet after planet that was dead, and those that weren’t pretty much committed suicide. Even Omicron disappeared due to its leader losing its purpose due to there not being anything atronger that they could conquer.

This was millions if not billions of years ago, so there could, of course, developed some life since then. But it’s likely that Metreion kept an eye out for life on other planets too and coils have killed it off when it arised.

And, as mentioned, Vrtra stated that Midgardsormr mentioned that our star was the last hope and shone bright because of the life on it, implying that all other planets were dead, or at least didn’t have the same will to live.

All in all, it doesn’t sound like there are any other cosmic threats

[Lokus]

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There's also that last area of Ultima Thule that implies that Meteion was already passively bringing ruin to other worlds just by getting close to them since that area emphasized that drinks in the cafe were poured as if people were there moments ago.

Question for those players that are lalafell and beat the MSQ

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So, do you just do Shoryukens and shit to Zenos at the end? lol I'm trying to make that last scene make sense in my head and it just can't cause smol vs juicy

[Kaslo]

https://twitter.com/MicaBurton/statu...592125441?s=20

[Dotsudoku]

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There's also that last area of Ultima Thule that implies that Meteion was already passively bringing ruin to other worlds just by getting close to them since that area emphasized that drinks in the cafe were poured as if people were there moments ago.

Question for those players that are lalafell and beat the MSQ

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So, do you just do Shoryukens and shit to Zenos at the end? lol I'm trying to make that last scene make sense in my head and it just can't cause smol vs juicy

all you need to know is that it's the superior experience

[Vaspinne]

Wtf

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Why the fuck would they blindside you with a random toss-away sidequest to give Papalymo's father a sandwich

How many people totally missed the moment just speeding through the dialogue I wonder

[Lucavi]

If they're speeding through the dialogue, too bad for them. This is literally a single-player RPG disguised as a MMO. If you're spamming the button to skip the text ASAP for some fucking tiny sidequest XP and a goddamn set of 2 sammiches, that's on you.

That's not the only heavy-hitting sidequest. There's quite a few major story beats tucked away in sidequests throughout each zone. There's a shit-ton of dragon lore, for example.