I don't like the name of this thread: giraffes

[archibaldcrane]

"grade independent measurement tool"


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[archibaldcrane]

You're the admin, if I'm interpreting this incorrectly let me know


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[archibaldcrane]

watch out archi, i always tested at 99th percentile and now i crave meth

Same, and now I have a 6th grader smarter than the average (math) or well above average (reading) 12th grader

To be clear, his scores aren't 99th percentile for 6th grade.

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[Ksandra]

Sorry went to take a shower and realized my post was going to be confusing. To start:

I both have proctored the nwea test as a teacher and now responsible for admining the test. They have fucked up the NWEA concept over the years, and honestly I would worry less about the number and throw that in the trash and instead focus on the percentile, lexile, and growth charts.


To give an idea: NWEA has been changing their focus over the years. MAP used to be a “mastery and progress” test. They now call it a “Measures of Academic Progress Test.” Their RIT score used to focus on both areas: did the kid master certain concepts? Did they grow?

The mastery piece has secretly gone away. Like we had a training recently where I found in one of their reports a chart to match their rit score to their predictive CAASPP score and the lady legit seemed annoyed I pointed it out and she said we shouldn’t use it. So fucking weird. Anyway:


RIT in its current form is supposed to be indicative of what they could probably handle. Which is, quite frankly, a dumbass way to handle it. But I didn’t create it. So your son could possible handle hard 12th grade complexity level questions. Which means not necessarily that he knows how to answer calc questions, but that he could handle a question that would be considered as complexly written as a calc question, and probably wasn’t asked any calc questions on the test. (Throw. That. In. The. Trash.)


With that being said, my annoyance has more to do with using that raw RIT number for anything, but believe it or not, not with the test itself. It actually is a really good CAASPP predictor, among the other data.

As I said: his lexile is a very good benchmark to use and your parent report should list that.

His percentile is excellent, too, and is probably the best indicator. Percentile rank is compared to others in his grade level.


And growth is probably the biggest factor. I would look to see in comparison to the fall to gauge how he is doing.

[archibaldcrane]

He had a 236 reading, 227 math in the fall

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[Cantih]

watch out archi, i always tested at 99th percentile and now i crave meth

Similarly, I had 99th percentile score in most categories of STAR testing (and got a few thousand in scholarship money for it too).
Then went on to get 99/97th percentile scores on my GED (excluding the essay section) because I never graduated.
And now I'm a loser of no notability in my 4th decade.

And I can't blame it on meth.

Scores don't mean shit as long as they aren't low.

[Ksandra]

He had a 236 reading, 227 math in the fall

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That’s amazing growth for the math for sure! And the reading is normal growth but he is still already at a high level. I hope you don’t take my meaning to think he isn’t smart. He sounds hella smart. If I had that data ona student I would interpret it as a high level student who is still growing quickly. That’s how they would want us interpreting it. I go Sleepies now

[Andalusian girls]

i'm not bein funny now and i don't know how to say this politely but i've posted with you guys for years now like and those 99th percentile scores more evidence damning inadequacies within the standardized test than exceptional individual cognition

[Andalusian girls]

https://x.com/chillextremist/status/2021291651852108028

[Andalusian girls]

if Alex Jones wasn't evil he would be one of the great comedians of our time

[Xno Kappa]

[Salodin]

"grade independent measurement tool"


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Should ask his teacher cause they sometimes explain these tests horribly

Florida's test is adaptive too, and the score is comparable to every grade year. They just score a higher raw number every year, and change the demarcation every grade for what's considered failing, passing, or excelling. For example, a 4th grader could get 200 on reading and that's considered on level, but a 200 in 5th grade is not on level. They can score a 250 in reading at grade 5, which is a top tier level 5, but in 7th grade that's barely on level.

I'd just make sure that's not the situation going on, but every state handles it different so

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[thetruepandagod]

if Alex Jones wasn't evil he would be one of the great comedians of our time

perhaps the rising average level of evil amongst nameable known people is a boon to alex

[thetruepandagod]

no child left behind, get rid of the tests

[Demosthenes]

https://www.heise.de/en/news/WD-and-...-11178917.html

With Western Digital and Seagate, two of the three remaining hard drive manufacturers worldwide have confirmed that they have already sold their production quotas for 2026 completely or almost completely. The situation is likely to be similar for Toshiba.

[archibaldcrane]

i'm not bein funny now and i don't know how to say this politely but i've posted with you guys for years now like and those 99th percentile scores more evidence damning inadequacies within the standardized test than exceptional individual cognition

Don't worry, by the time my kids are taking standardized tests that matter the median 11th grader is going to have offloaded their entire cognitive load to AI.

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[Milkster]

no child left behind, get rid of the tests

Many of the children should've been left behind unfortunately. Now they all have podcasts.

[Mertron]

watch out archi, i always tested at 99th percentile and now i crave meth

i was also one of these kids and i turned out mostly ok

[Milkster]

https://x.com/i/status/2023860472026669400

[Milkster]

https://x.com/i/status/2023860472026669400

Looking like a duo in the Crackhead Olympics.