117th United States Congress: #CancelGate

[Andalusian girls]

Republicans have never nuked the filibuster but pithy

[Andalusian girls]

and just to remind this audience this fight is occurring because Biden wants to slam a $3.5 trillion social benefits bill on top of the $1.9 trillion corona relief bill he put in and the $1.1 trillion infrastructure bill that had wide, bipartisan support.

not that it matters but our annual revenue is $3.4 trillion, our deficit last year was $3.7 trillion, and our projected one this year is $3.4 trillion.

this is what a healthy government looks like

[Krandor]

My next paycheck is already processed so I'm good for a shutdown again if it happens, I could use the free time off

[Mrbeansman]

Reminder that we don't pre approve borrowing like the rest of the world so that our political class can have a crisis they can solve every few years.

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[Sepukku]

and just to remind this audience this fight is occurring because Biden wants to slam a $3.5 trillion social benefits bill on top of the $1.9 trillion corona relief bill he put in and the $1.1 trillion infrastructure bill that had wide, bipartisan support.

not that it matters but our annual revenue is $3.4 trillion, our deficit last year was $3.7 trillion, and our projected one this year is $3.4 trillion.

this is what a healthy government looks like

Sounds like we need more revenue

[Yabby]

No clue how we could ever do that...

[Tymon]

We could always bomb Iran

[Andalusian girls]

Sounds like we need more revenue

desperately, along with a massive overhaul of the healthcare system that continues to gut federal and state budgets by being both expensive and inefficient. what we don't need is more massive, unpaid deficit spending when the economy is already overheating, inflation has been crunching us all summer, the housing market is a massive bubble yet again, the stock market is significantly overvalued as it is now worth 199% of GDP, and monetary policy is looser than an 18 year old on Rumspringa.

Covid affected an abnormal recession with an abnormal recovery, the next recession stemming from these structural issues is going to be exceptionally painful and prolonged if we continue on our current path.

[Mertron]

https://twitter.com/internethippo/st...332259329?s=21

[Zealot]

desperately, along with a massive overhaul of the healthcare system that continues to gut federal and state budgets by being both expensive and inefficient. what we don't need is more massive, unpaid deficit spending when the economy is already overheating, inflation has been crunching us all summer, the housing market is a massive bubble yet again, the stock market is significantly overvalued as it is now worth 199% of GDP, and monetary policy is looser than an 18 year old on Rumspringa.

Covid affected an abnormal recession with an abnormal recovery, the next recession stemming from these structural issues is going to be exceptionally painful and prolonged if we continue on our current path.

I want to find one of these Rumspringa chicks.

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[Gwynplaine]

there may be a middle ground between doing nothing and altering a 215 year old Congressional rule

you guys really do have the shortest memories. the Dems hitting the nuclear option on presidential appointments directly and immediately led us to Trump's atrocious SCOTUS picks and his worst cabinet picks. one can only wonder at the hell Republicans would bring about when they regain Congress and they lack the constraints of the filibuster.

What are you talking about? So much of his "cabinet" was NOT CONFIRMED BY THE SENATE AND MERELY SQUATTING IN DEFIANCE OF THE LAW. The Republicans do whatever the fuck they want and the Dems should use their power they have NOW to destroy the filibuster and steamroll the Republicans into giving up their fascist aspirations.

[Mrbeansman]

Hey remember in 2016 I said we have to hold our nose and let Hilary appoint SCOTUS judges or Roe V Wade would die and everyone here said there's no way they would ever overturn it? You all seem incapable of comprehending the unprecedented destruction that will unfold if the GOP inevitably gains control of both houses and the white house with no filibuster to keep them in check.

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[Day]

Incredibly shortsighted posters that Im glad have no power in here

[Zealot]

Incredibly shortsighted posters that Im glad have no power in here

We let them screw us now or we let them screw us later, or we let them screw us now AND later. That's all there is to it.

I attended hearings on the Hill in 2013-14 all about how our entire federal court system was getting destroyed because no judges were being appointed to fill vacancies.

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[Andalusian girls]

there may be something more to it

anyways Schumer and Republicans hammered out something, gov is getting funded till December, when, presumably, we can do all this again

still no progress in the Dem infighting over infrastructure / social benefits. Pelosi promised a vote on infrastructure tomorrow but progressive insurgency may torpedo it. juicy stuff, tune in next time on dragonnn balll zzzzzz

[archibaldcrane]

"We have an agreement on the CR -- the continuing resolution to prevent a government shutdown -- and we should be voting on that tomorrow morning," Schumer said. The stopgap bill will include emergency funding for natural disaster relief and to assist in Afghan refugee resettlement, the New York Democrat said earlier.

Debt ceiling is still set to be breached ~Oct 18th.

[Antithesis]

Republicans have never nuked the filibuster but pithy

Let’s work under this assumption that removing the filibuster would be a long term bad idea. What do you suggest we do to counteract the menagerie of GOP policies both new and old across the board? At the state level, we’re dealing with rampant voter suppression and anti-abortion policies and at the federal level we have to contend with constant obstructionism not to mention those tax cuts from the Trump era.

How are we genuinely suppose to make progress with so many constant barriers cockblocking us at every turn? I say this not as someone who is 100% onboard with the elimination of the filibuster because I’m willing to admit that no amount of reddit browsing nor article reading can replace a concrete understanding about how congress and the government work. I have zero idea idea if the removal of the filibuster would actually be better or worse for progressive policies. The point is how do we move forward when a mountain has to be climbed at every turn?

[Day]

Do you guys really feel this bill is worth trading one of the last tools you have to prevent republicans from ramming through whatever, for the rest of time. I do not.

[archibaldcrane]

Do you guys really feel this bill is worth trading one of the last tools you have to prevent republicans from ramming through whatever, for the rest of time. I do not.

Eliminating the filibuster doesn't help pass the reconciliation bill that only needs 50 votes anyway

I do think we should do it for bills that we have 50 votes for and can't do them in reconciliation, but

[Antithesis]

Do you guys really feel this bill is worth trading one of the last tools you have to prevent republicans from ramming through whatever, for the rest of time. I do not.

It depends on what side of the coin you are looking at which is what makes this tricky in my head. On one side you have maintaining the filibuster which gives access to a powerful tool to the minority party. In practice, it’s become a tool of obstructionism over the last couple of decades but there are instances where I can see why it is useful.

On the other side of the coin you have getting rid of the filibuster. I do fear what life would be like if there was absolutely nothing that the minority party could do if they didn’t agree with a bill on the Senate floor. That being said, doesn’t keeping the filibuster in the end benefit the GOP more than it does us? The GOP’s tactic since Obama has been to cockblock everything the Democrats do. They dont want the Dems to enact their policies because its harder to take away something like universal healthcare than it is to stop it before it becomes law. But I also think the GOP don’t actually want to enact “their” laws because they are deeply unpopular. The reason I feel state congressmen in heavy red states are going apeshit with anti-abortion laws and voter suppression is because they know they are in a safe state that reliably votes red whereas the Senate’s makeup can change quickly in 2 years.

Without a filibuster, they would be free to pass what they want if they had the majority but then the public would actually have to endure GOP policies that they can no longer abstract, now it’s affecting their daily lives and the GOP are on record for voting for those policies. At the end of the day, I don’t know which is the better choice for the country.