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    Quote Originally Posted by Athas View Post
    He's being charged as a producer responsible for gun safety or as the guy who pulled the trigger?
    90% sure the charges against Baldwin are at least politically motivated. He's been one of the rights Hollywood boogymen for awhile now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrbeansman View Post
    90% sure the charges against Baldwin are at least politically motivated. He's been one of the rights Hollywood boogymen for awhile now.

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    Baldwin is a douchebag. So I guess it is fair to associate him with the Democrats.

    Any evidence the charges are politically motivated? 90% is rather sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrbeansman View Post
    90% sure the charges against Baldwin are at least politically motivated. He's been one of the rights Hollywood boogymen for awhile now.

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    I think they might be motivated by him shooting that woman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    I think they might be motivated by him shooting that woman.

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    Yeah with a gun he was handed and told was safe by an incompetent armorer.

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    I know it's been a bit, but the right was frothing when it happened because they didn't like him doing Trump impersonations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrbeansman View Post
    Yeah with a gun he was handed and told was safe by an incompetent armorer.

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    That was handed to Baldwin by an assistant director who declared "Cold Gun" and pled guilty to a charge of negligent use of a deadly weapon.

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    And he was one of the primary producers for the film who would have been responsible for hiring all those people

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    The charge to Baldwin wont stick. They're aiming too high with that one.

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    Not really. If you hand me a gun, tell me it's unloaded and cold, and I point it at you and pull the trigger and wind up killing you, I'm still responsible for handling a firearm in a negligent way.

    Will he go to prison over it? Probably not, but it's still a fair charge due to him improperly handling a gun, and hiring people who were unqualified to be an on-set armorer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    The charge to Baldwin wont stick. They're aiming too high with that one.
    he should have aimed higher

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    Reminder that "producer" credits given to actors are mostly a prestige thing and way to structure contracts, not because they are doing the day to day work of producing (hiring, managing schedules, etc)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    I think they might be motivated by him shooting that woman.

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    Those dastardly Republicans!


    90%..

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    no wonder celebs get away with so much, can literally shoot 2 people in broad daylight and folks will bend over backwards to tell you it wasn't manslaughter

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    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
    Reminder that "producer" credits given to actors are mostly a prestige thing and way to structure contracts, not because they are doing the day to day work of producing (hiring, managing schedules, etc)
    Well they've been investigating this shit for months now before deciding to charge him so it feels like he probably had a more direct hand in this.

    I mean besides obviously being the actual hand firing the gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    no wonder celebs get away with so much, can literally shoot 2 people in broad daylight and folks will bend over backwards to tell you it wasn't manslaughter
    Just for reference, Derick Chauvin was convicted of 2nd degree unintentional manslaughter. To me Alec doesn't rise to that level of unintentional death from recklessness. No one was charged over Brandon Lee, for example.

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    Brandon Lee's death was a wholly different level of negligence to what happened here.

    There was never a real round in the gun in the Lee shooting, as opposed to the guns for Rust being used at a shooting range on the same day they were to be used on set as prop guns.

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    Maybe there's something that hasn't been released yet but the picture so far looks like Baldwin was the poor soul who was given a loaded gun and told it was safe through multiple failed checks.

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    I retract my previous statement.

    Baldwin is absolutely at fault for hiring a woman to do a mans job.
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