{COVID-19} Pandemic Vomit VI

[Starby]

Video about the rapid tests vs the super sensitive pcr tests: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ_8b_Ydsv0

From about 7 months ago. I'm not a virologist or anything but what he's saying makes sense to me, and touches on what Tymon's getting at

[Daydreamer]

Did they test positive with pcr tests or just rapid tests? Honest question as I’m unsure. The pcr thing could be a possibility but I think the rapid ones work in a way where a false positive is unlikely but a false negative is much more likely (like if you get tested too early).

[Tymon]

Everybody does PCR tests now.

[Daydreamer]

Everybody does PCR tests now.

??? That doesn’t make sense given there are plenty of places near me that offer 15-30 minute results. It takes at least 2-3 hours to run a thermal cycler for pcr not even including setup and analyzing the results.

Also here https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbc...2684501/%3famp it states they are doing daily rapid tests not pcr.

Did I misinterpret your response somehow?

[Tyche]

You can 100% run a pcr in under an hour.

[Tyrath]

https://www.al.com/news/2021/07/im-s...-patients.html



I've lost all my sympathy for the anti vaxxers but I feel for the healthcare workers who have to deal with all of these preventable infections/deaths.

[NynJa]

no F in the chat for these people.

[Kaslo]

But I will press Q to pay respects. Not F though. F is for ballers.

[Daydreamer]

You can 100% run a pcr in under an hour.

Yeah you’re right. It’s been a few years since I’ve ran one bad thinking back I remember it being 3-5 minutes per full cycle times like 10-15 cycles so that lines up.

[kuronosan]

??? That doesn’t make sense given there are plenty of places near me that offer 15-30 minute results. It takes at least 2-3 hours to run a thermal cycler for pcr not even including setup and analyzing the results.

Also here https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbc...2684501/%3famp it states they are doing daily rapid tests not pcr.

Did I misinterpret your response somehow?

Wut, I get PCR results in like an hour.

[Andalusian girls]

https://www.al.com/news/2021/07/im-s...-patients.html



I've lost all my sympathy for the anti vaxxers but I feel for the healthcare workers who have to deal with all of these preventable infections/deaths.

i still have a good deal of sympathy for them. personally responsibility ofc, but figure the kinds of attitudes they exhibit is, at least partially, the result of a lot of structural failures extant in this country. when you combine a lackluster primary education system with aggressive propaganda outlets this is the result, and a lot of these people are victims of such circumstances.

[Daydreamer]

Wut, I get PCR results in like an hour.

Yeah see my above post. It’s been a while since I’ve ran one and goofed.

[kuronosan]

i still have a good deal of sympathy for them. personally responsibility ofc, but figure the kinds of attitudes they exhibit is, at least partially, the result of a lot of structural failures extant in this country. when you combine a lackluster primary education system with aggressive propaganda outlets this is the result, and a lot of these people are victims of such circumstances.

Yep.

Also, DD, sorry but didn't see your post before I posted.

[Daydreamer]

No worries.

And AG brings up a good point as well but it’s hard to not have an attitude like that and not come off as super elitist and condensing when speaking with the other side. Actually using that narrative with them would take just the right touch to come out in a way that doesn’t cause an adverse reaction and I don’t know how many people are actually capable of pulling that off.

[6souls]

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcar...lamda-covid-19
https://www.who.int/en/activities/tr...oV-2-variants/

The Lambda variant (South America) has appeared in Houston, TX.

[Day]

i would prefer a labamba variant

[Kaslo]

Biology Nerds, I've seen the argument from some friends who are biologists that variants are inevitable, and in most circumstances not something to be concerns about because virus tend to mutate not to be more deadly, but to be less deadly so they can maintain a living host. Anything to this?

[Xno Kappa]

Biology Nerds, I've seen the argument from some friends who are biologists that variants are inevitable, and in most circumstances not something to be concerns about because virus tend to mutate not to be more deadly, but to be less deadly so they can maintain a living host. Anything to this?

I remember reading that was partially the reason the Black Plague died down.

[Andalusian girls]

viral mutations are selected for for the same reason anything else is, to replicate successfully. it is wrong to presume that will result in a less deadly virus as sometimes increasing severe symptoms will affect greater evolutionary fitness, while sometimes lessening severity of symptoms to improve host longevity will indeed increase fitness. it is a case by case basis. a general rule of thumb is that it is difficult for them to increase rate of transmission while reducing lethality, and so they settle in a goldilocks ratio between the two. it is about finding the optimal mathematical equilibrium between host longevity and symptom severity.

in the specific case of Covid i would remain cautious as we have seen influenza and HIV viruses evolve over time to become resistant to the drugs and vaccines used to treat them. so while the severity of coronavirus symptoms may not increase, the ability of the virus to break through vaccination barriers may well increase, which would result in overall greater lethality, or rather something approaching a return to baseline lethality.

[Tymon]

If I was simultaneously infected with both Alpha and Omega covid I wonder if evangelicals would worship me