Dragon Quest XII: Beyond Dreams (The Flames of Fate) - It's Maybe for Adults

[Kaisha]

I was hoping the graphics wouldn't be....just more of that same look every anime game in UE5 is using, with realistic materials on heavily stylized characters. We have all this compute power now and no one is doing cool shit with it on the aesthetic end.

This whole thing feels like a VS-XIII -> XV, except keeping the same number. I'm curious how much of anything they were able to use from the first dev take on XII besides character/enemy models.

Seems like the whole 40th anniversary stream was kind of a letdown. People had really high hopes.

And another year of me being blue-balled with no announcement of either of the DQX getting an official localization.

[Tyrath]

It really depends on how much of the original game they kept, so its unclear if it's the same thing as Versus > XV

[Gokulo]

And another year of me being blue-balled with no announcement of either of the DQX getting an official localization.

Online is never getting a translation at this point, the cost is just too high and offline was just a means to push people towards online anyway, so no reason for them to translate it really. Just play the JP version with translation at this point.

[Madeline]

where do you guys think we go after this? our boys are getting very old and 2 of them are dead now, does DQ continue on or is 12 a reasonable end?

[Tyrath]

I don't think SE would let it die even if Yuji Horii wanted to

[BWYuko]

Horii is absolutely the only reason this is Beyond Dreams now. It is supposed to be the ultra-conservative "don't change the formula" wholesome JRPG while Final Fantasy is meant to be the opposite "redefining" the genre with each title. They almost tossed that model here with Flames of Fate; today's announcement shows Horii clearly didn't want that shit, pulled back the reins and made them revert to the old formula. Once he croaks, SE is going to do whatever the hell they want with the IP, however venerated/sacred it is to JP pop culture.

[Zealot]

The idea of a "dark" Dragon Quest is also kinda questionable since most of them are pretty dark in every aspect except art direction.

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[Tyrath]

The idea of a "dark" Dragon Quest is also kinda questionable since most of them are pretty dark in every aspect except art direction.

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They have dark concepts, but on the whole they remain campy, fun adventures. Replaying DQ11 and the worlds fallen apart but the big thing I remembered from Act 2 was the Soldiers of Smile.

[Kachiko]

If you're showing in-game footage, you didn't just re-start it. We're a few years into re-starting it.

[Celeras]

They have dark concepts, but on the whole they remain campy, fun adventures. Replaying DQ11 and the worlds fallen apart but the big thing I remembered from Act 2 was the Soldiers of Smile.

Brother one of the games had you watch the Hero's father get burned alive and turned to ash right in front of them.... right before they were taken away and enslaved in a concentration camp for a decade lol.

I thought the news was pretty disappointing but I'm sure returning to "by the numbers" will still result in an enjoyable Dragon Quest game.

[Tyrath]

I haven't played whichever one that is so I can't comment. Also don't tell me which one it is because I plan to go through them eventually.

But I maintain that despite dark moments, the overall vibe of the games remain fun and adventure.

[Ayn]

Gonna spoil anyway.

It's Dragon Quest Origins, Stranger of Eden, which details the tragic backstory of DQ1's Dragonlord.

[Zealot]

SOME of the darker moments in DQ history, without naming names:

1. God fights the Devil and loses
2. Robot apocalypse
3. Father dies in front of MC (multiple occurences)
4. Human sacrifice
5. Human experimentation
6. Murder
7. Mass murder
8. Genocide
9. Heroes lose and world is destroyed
10. Puff-Puff

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[6souls]

SOME of the darker moments in DQ history, without naming names:

1. God fights the Devil and loses
2. Robot apocalypse
3. Father dies in front of MC (multiple occurences)
4. Human sacrifice
5. Human experimentation
6. Murder
7. Mass murder
8. Genocide
9. Heroes lose and world is destroyed
10. Puff-Puff

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Who doesn't love puff puff?

[6souls]