Actual YouTube/Twitch drama thread II

[Salodin]

don't think I saw it in here but I lost the link to a tweet with a screenshot of asmongold with a cockroach in the background captioned something like "even asmongold doesn't have to shock his pet to stay in frame"

Hehehe

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[Salodin]

anyone here notice a lot more far right accounts and our current administration/propaganda accounts coming up on your feed. Seems like the last week I've been flooded with posts from the administrations accounts or the program's official twitter accounts they lead.

Yes, I have. I figured it's Elon trying to influence people the way social media can.

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[Karbuncle]

She's not on stream ALL the time either lol....she goes for walks and shit. it's not fucking hard to find clips of her there and not there...also dogs love being around their owners too. It's hilarious to be getting this bent out of shape over "perceived" issues. The dude got his huge ass dog trained by a professional trainer which is a great thing to do with his reasoning being something around not wanting an untrained mini grizzly bear which is spot on.

Yes its very nice he allows his dog to be a dog when the camera isn't turned on, how benevolent.

You know I've never seen you and Hasans dog in the same room at the same time... suspicious TBH.

[thetruepandagod]

anyone here notice a lot more far right accounts and our current administration/propaganda accounts coming up on your feed. Seems like the last week I've been flooded with posts from the administrations accounts or the program's official twitter accounts they lead.

I delete and recreate my Xitter account periodically because I only use it to follow meteorology and weather forecasting. A few months of literally nothing but that eventually still results in a bunch of far right stuff popping up. That's when it's time to cut it loose.

It is still unfortunately the far and away best place for that, can't give it up until they decide to migrate elsewhere. Only a small percentage use bsky.

Yes, I have. I figured it's Elon trying to influence people the way social media can.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-LMPbv_Kd4U

[Meresgi]

Yes its very nice he allows his dog to be a dog when the camera isn't turned on, how benevolent.

The walker he has come for the dog during stream is probably actually making sure the voltage is correct on the tesla coil wrapped around her neck.

[Krandor]

A second Hasan shocking his dog clip has hit the internet.

[Koul]

There's quite a few clips of him with his dog. There's also one where one of the "I've Had It" podcast ladies says that the collar is too tight and he says she has a lot of "neck meat" whatever the fuck that means.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamF..._is_too_tight/

From all the clips I've seen, I'm not sure why he even has a dog. He bitches all the time about her like she's some horrible menace. Why does she HAVE to be in that room with a single shitty uncomfortable ass looking dog bed. I have studio apartment and my dog has 4 beds in a variety of places that he can choose to go to when he wants.

[Meresgi]

There's quite a few clips of him with his dog. There's also one where one of the "I've Had It" podcast ladies says that the collar is too tight and he says she has a lot of "neck meat" whatever the fuck that means.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamF..._is_too_tight/

From all the clips I've seen, I'm not sure why he even has a dog. He bitches all the time about her like she's some horrible menace. Why does she HAVE to be in that room with a single shitty uncomfortable ass looking dog bed. I have studio apartment and my dog has 4 beds in a variety of places that he can choose to go to when he wants.

lol the guy fucking loves that dog. It's very clear from tons and tons of videos. People clip chimping the shit out of things is hilarious and the uproar even more so. Got professional dog trainers saying everything is fine, you got animal rights people like Maya who have been over at his place tons and never had issues seemingly with how he handles his dog.

If a person has "dog voice" for their dog then they love their fucking dog, aint no one using dog voice naturally while abusing their animals.

[Salodin]

https://x.com/NewsM101/status/197751...FKHyTecBQ&s=19

This video is more damning than the shock video tbh. You can see the dog's body language and how she keeps looking back at hasan hoping to god to get permission to leave her cell, just for him to threaten the shock if she doesn't obey the command. His hand hovers in the same spot as the shock button prior to giving her the command. That ain't no vibration the dog is scared of while being thirsty af. There is nothing in this video that shows she LOVES to be trapped there, she very clearly wants to leave but is being ordered not to.

Nothing illegal of course, but very clearly a dog trained through pain. She is property, not a person, which is why so many of y'all handwaving this. I'm still upset at how many of you will willfully ignore any mountain of evidence just to reinforce for yourself that this content creator you have a para-social relationship with is actually as cool as you think he is.

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[Anoat]

People really calling this thing Dogtober 7th lmao the timing man, THE TIMING

[Zealot]

K9/11.

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[arus2001]

...he says she has a lot of "neck meat" whatever the fuck that means.

Just gonna field this because having 3 shar peis, I've got experience with dogs with "neck meat" as you put it.

A dog's fur and underlying skin isn't really super firmly attached to the bone/muscle beneath. If you're unlucky and they get an infected wound, you can get a lot of swelling in these gaps that need to be lanced and drained. Regardless, different breeds are going to have differing amounts of excess skin so some dogs are going to have a thicker neck despite a similar muscle/skeletal structure to others. Think a momma dog carrying a puppy by the scruff of the neck. It's just that persists into adulthood and for some dogs there's more of it. We might think it hurts because pinching and stretching our skin obviously does, but for them, it's nothing. They also don't quite feel pain the same way we do. So while we're gnashing about shock collars and torture, for some, it may very well be a tickle. All of this is something I've picked up over time because unfortunately our boy dogs have fought pretty violently on occasion resulting in stitches and infection care. Our youngest does have aggression and anxiety issues on top of allergies and vulnerability to shar pei fever. Prior to my dad passing, I'd also say he was constantly on edge with easily he got angry about anything and everything. We've been doing better now, but there are still grumbly moments and there are some situations I insist my mom not put them in.

Anyway, my second dog's neck is so thick that we can't put a collar on it because it's wider than her head and we have to use a harness instead. Part of it is the breed thing, but compared to the boys, her head is also a lot smaller in general. If I do use a collar and I'm walking with her, she's usually fine, but if I were to just put her outside on the line for a bit, she'd eventually slip out even if she didn't really mean to. It's silly, but some dogs are just like that.

[Karbuncle]

https://x.com/NewsM101/status/197751...FKHyTecBQ&s=19

This video is more damning than the shock video tbh. You can see the dog's body language and how she keeps looking back at hasan hoping to god to get permission to leave her cell, just for him to threaten the shock if she doesn't obey the command. His hand hovers in the same spot as the shock button prior to giving her the command. That ain't no vibration the dog is scared of while being thirsty af. There is nothing in this video that shows she LOVES to be trapped there, she very clearly wants to leave but is being ordered not to.

Nothing illegal of course, but very clearly a dog trained through pain. She is property, not a person, which is why so many of y'all handwaving this. I'm still upset at how many of you will willfully ignore any mountain of evidence just to reinforce for yourself that this content creator you have a para-social relationship with is actually as cool as you think he is.

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The more I learn on the subject, the less I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, tbh.

Won't repeat the same topics but yah, after trying to look more into it, directly from him and his responses, as well as others covering it from other angles, just... think he's not a good pet owner.

[6souls]

https://x.com/ThomasSowell/status/1977519652138864792

Hasan has been getting too much of the spotlight

[Meresgi]

https://x.com/NewsM101/status/197751...FKHyTecBQ&s=19

This video is more damning than the shock video tbh. You can see the dog's body language and how she keeps looking back at hasan hoping to god to get permission to leave her cell, just for him to threaten the shock if she doesn't obey the command. His hand hovers in the same spot as the shock button prior to giving her the command. That ain't no vibration the dog is scared of while being thirsty af. There is nothing in this video that shows she LOVES to be trapped there, she very clearly wants to leave but is being ordered not to.

Nothing illegal of course, but very clearly a dog trained through pain. She is property, not a person, which is why so many of y'all handwaving this. I'm still upset at how many of you will willfully ignore any mountain of evidence just to reinforce for yourself that this content creator you have a para-social relationship with is actually as cool as you think he is.

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The "mountain" of evidence being few clipped videos people are bullshitting to make a narrative around. Hell there's the one clip of Hasan looking at Kaya who wags her tail everytime he looks and then stops when he looks away. We gonna say he's abused her into stockholm syndrome so she feels she has to wag her tail if she looks at her or she may get punished? lol

If it comes out he actually is using a shock collar with proof beyond random videos of speculation as "damning" that don't show shit then yeah that sucks, shock collars shouldn't be used by your average dog owner. I know a lot of working dog trainers use them along with positive reinforcement mixed in. Right now it's all just grasping at straws and acting like this puts him on the same level or even worse as Destiny or Tectone or others.

[Salodin]

If it comes out he actually is using a shock collar with proof beyond random videos of speculation as "damning" that don't show shit then yeah that sucks, shock collars shouldn't be used by your average dog owner. I know a lot of working dog trainers use them along with positive reinforcement mixed in. Right now it's all just grasping at straws and acting like this puts him on the same level or even worse as Destiny or Tectone or others.

See, you COULD have just said you don't mind shock collars to begin with, think they have a use, and aren't bothered by him using one, etc., but you won't cause you are aware how that sounds. Just admit it big dawg; some people just don't care about these things and that is their perogative. But a lot of people do, any if you ever give them a chance maybe they'll convince you to not shock your dogs to train them.

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[Tymon]

I totes care about shock collars and think that's whack but I agree with this guy politically so that's a lot more important to me. Fire up the zapperoni baby! The Jews won't brainwash me today!

[Lyltia]

Right now it's all just grasping at straws and acting like this puts him on the same level or even worse as Destiny or Tectone or others.

He already is just as bad as whoever they are. Shocking a dog makes him like 0.3% of a worse person than he was previously for being a propagandist.

[thetruepandagod]

if destiny and hasan were in a room and i had 1 bullet i would shoot hasan and beat destiny to death. but thats just me

[Salodin]

I get it man, my dog is a mini schnauzer yapper. I've been very tempted to go the shock collar route to deal with it, but I didn't because I love my dog and don't want to cause it physical pain to change its behavior (I even found a $6 shock collar on sale and still declined to do it). And not just because of the immediate pain! Even the fear of the pain is an emotion and behavior I don't want my dog to exhibit. It's personality changing, and not in a favorable way.

That fear of pain is something you can see Hasan's dog experience. It's clear as day in plenty of examples already posted that certain people keep trying to pretend don't exist (until they later admit it does). There is nothing illegal about doing this to your dog, but it does say a lot about you.

Not caring about a dogs state of mind as long as it follows your orders is not too dissimilar to how many humans treat other humans *coughisraelcough* and if you don't see the parallels in your behavior then you do you buddy.

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