Actual YouTube/Twitch drama thread II

[Lyltia]

Dr. K is a legit board certified licensed and practicing psychiatrist who also streams for fun (and money). He’s not just some random guy.

He’s definitely just some random guy. Having degrees doesn’t make you a more credible streamer; there are plenty of board-certified republican doctors who ascribe to conspiracy theories about public health, after all. It doesn’t matter what you stream or what your intent is, the same negative incentives exist for all creators and therefore render them all suspect.

[thetruepandagod]

Do streamers really make videos about other streamers, has the organism begun feeding on itself

for like a decade

[Zealot]

I watch reaction compilations sometimes but if I had to watch a reaction to a reaction I would fill my pockets with stones and walk into the sea.

[Obsidian]

You all sound like absolute boomers right now.

[Mrbeansman]

99.8% of react content is pure fucking garbage. I only really enjoy roasting the incredibly stupid shit some of these people say.

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[Meresgi]

He’s definitely just some random guy. Having degrees doesn’t make you a more credible streamer; there are plenty of board-certified republican doctors who ascribe to conspiracy theories about public health, after all. It doesn’t matter what you stream or what your intent is, the same negative incentives exist for all creators and therefore render them all suspect.

He's not some random guy though, this is his profession and he garners his focus on topics that include a lot of streamers, social issues and other things.

and this video i posted right after u talking about his doggie voice?
edit: did u just link a 3 hour video...

And I hadn't seen that video before talking about the doggie voice, my comment on doggie voice being 20% in jest as well.

My quote "ain't no one with dog voice being an abusive monster out there", I don't think Hasan is an abusive monster because there is still no evidence of it. Yes it appears he pulled that dogs tail and that's a huge no-no, Hasan also to my knowledge has never claimed he's the worlds leading authority on dog training and handling? Did he feel like shit after doing this? Does he recognize and apologize for this? Was there more context to the clip as well? All of this is mentioned in Dr K's video....and how it doesn't actually fucking matter to you or anyone else. You've made up your minds and this isn't a debate, you're just talking past anyone who is questioning the credibility of these claims. Do I think if you pull on a dogs tail you COULD be someone who is more abusive? Sure. Do I think you could also do that and get frustrated with an animal and then feel super shitty about it and it doesn't actually represent you? Yes that also.

I'm guessing you've never ever yelled at your dogs for barking or getting into the trash or anything else in ANY way ever in frustration and anger and if we had thousands of hours of video of you we'd never dig up a single thing to try to crucify you on...because I know I have fucking done it. I've been frustrated and dog barking and yelled for her to "shut the fuck up" and then immediately felt horrible about it.

Yes I linked a 3hr video of a practicing psychiatrist going over this and not taking sides. Sorry it's not a 15 sec - 1 min clip of his stream potentially cut out of any context

[Dimmauk]

You all sound like absolute boomers right now.

I'd rather watch tribesmen eating American deserts on YouTube than whatever the fuck this other shit is.

[Richybear]

All you need is a 15 second clip that has

Doggo does a heckin good step.
Hand goes reach.
Collar goes BZZZT.
Dog goes yipe.

But it was probably it being shot in the dew claw by IDF space lasers

[Meresgi]

All you need is a 15 second clip that has

Doggo does a heckin good step.
Hand goes reach.
Collar goes BZZZT.
Dog goes yipe.

But it was probably it being shot in the dew claw by IDF space lasers

All you need is a 15sec clip of doggo jumping up on his lap
getting pets
wagging tail

Oh shit he's the most amazing dog owner ever and has never done anything wrong.

Dr K video "Being in the room and knowing what is actually happening is very different then watching clips and believing to know what is happening" 1:22:22 timestamp because "oh no long video". Based on him working with DOTA team and reading Reddit comments on what they thought was going on vs what was actually going on.

[Lyltia]

He's not some random guy though, this is his profession and he garners his focus on topics that include a lot of streamers, social issues and other things.




And I hadn't seen that video before talking about the doggie voice, my comment on doggie voice being 20% in jest as well.

My quote "ain't no one with dog voice being an abusive monster out there", I don't think Hasan is an abusive monster because there is still no evidence of it. Yes it appears he pulled that dogs tail and that's a huge no-no, Hasan also to my knowledge has never claimed he's the worlds leading authority on dog training and handling? Did he feel like shit after doing this? Does he recognize and apologize for this? Was there more context to the clip as well? All of this is mentioned in Dr K's video....and how it doesn't actually fucking matter to you or anyone else. You've made up your minds and this isn't a debate, you're just talking past anyone who is questioning the credibility of these claims. Do I think if you pull on a dogs tail you COULD be someone who is more abusive? Sure. Do I think you could also do that and get frustrated with an animal and then feel super shitty about it and it doesn't actually represent you? Yes that also.

I'm guessing you've never ever yelled at your dogs for barking or getting into the trash or anything else in ANY way ever in frustration and anger and if we had thousands of hours of video of you we'd never dig up a single thing to try to crucify you on...because I know I have fucking done it. I've been frustrated and dog barking and yelled for her to "shut the fuck up" and then immediately felt horrible about it.

Yes I linked a 3hr video of a practicing psychiatrist going over this and not taking sides. Sorry it's not a 15 sec - 1 min clip of his stream potentially cut out of any context

Dr. Oz is a real-ass doctor who was doing influencer shit before he got tapped - probably still is but idk. By your exact logic he is 100% credible. Does that help you maybe see the error in your judgment?

[Karbuncle]

He's not some random guy though, this is his profession and he garners his focus on topics that include a lot of streamers, social issues and other things.




And I hadn't seen that video before talking about the doggie voice, my comment on doggie voice being 20% in jest as well.

My quote "ain't no one with dog voice being an abusive monster out there", I don't think Hasan is an abusive monster because there is still no evidence of it. Yes it appears he pulled that dogs tail and that's a huge no-no, Hasan also to my knowledge has never claimed he's the worlds leading authority on dog training and handling? Did he feel like shit after doing this? Does he recognize and apologize for this? Was there more context to the clip as well? All of this is mentioned in Dr K's video....and how it doesn't actually fucking matter to you or anyone else. You've made up your minds and this isn't a debate, you're just talking past anyone who is questioning the credibility of these claims. Do I think if you pull on a dogs tail you COULD be someone who is more abusive? Sure. Do I think you could also do that and get frustrated with an animal and then feel super shitty about it and it doesn't actually represent you? Yes that also.

I'm guessing you've never ever yelled at your dogs for barking or getting into the trash or anything else in ANY way ever in frustration and anger and if we had thousands of hours of video of you we'd never dig up a single thing to try to crucify you on...because I know I have fucking done it. I've been frustrated and dog barking and yelled for her to "shut the fuck up" and then immediately felt horrible about it.

Yes I linked a 3hr video of a practicing psychiatrist going over this and not taking sides. Sorry it's not a 15 sec - 1 min clip of his stream potentially cut out of any context

Ok so you’re just stupid I’ll stop wasting my time giving you evidence when you’ll apparently ignore all of it and say “there’s no evidence”.

Edit: I can't, I still want to help you despite it all. Nothing in that video is going to disprove what we already know, Hasan shocks his dog to keep it in frame. We have the company who makes the shock collar coming out and saying "Yah thats our shock collar". No 3 hour essay is going to change that. So now the conversation has moved from "Did he shock his dog" to the subjective interpretation of him being "a monster", because the fun thing about subjective golaposts is you always have full control over what you think makes someone a monster so the facts are irrelevant.

So lets step past that and look at his actions specifically regarding him being caught doing it, and what he did thereafter.

Are you just going to pass over the fact he's been denying its a shock collar this whole time, manipulating your allegiance to him by blaming "Pro Israel" actors knowing this would make it a "The Left vs The Right" topic instead of a topic regarding his treatment of animals, knowing this would rally his fans to defend him(and this lie), all the time knowing he was sending you to defend a lie? If he's lying about something he so very blatantly got caught doing, can't you see he's probably lying about other shit too? Hes not only willing to manipulate his animals with pain, he's willing to manipulate you with lies, he knows his game, and you're playing without realizing it.

you can still like his politics, but you need to cut this parasocial cord of yours and accept he's going to have flaws, those flaws will be dealbreakers for some of his supporters, and those flaws with be exploited by his enemies.

[thetruepandagod]

has never claimed he's the worlds leading authority on dog training and handling?

there are way too many videos of him saying that he "trained the shit out of kaya" no one else could do it like him and that kaya was already fully trained by him before taking it to a professional for more(redundant) training. so no he doesn't claim to be the best but he sure does claim something.

here is one i quickly found
https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamF...tan_before_he/

if we had thousands of hours of video of you we'd never dig up a single thing to try to crucify you on

there would be a very long compilation of me stepping on her tail in the dark

you can enjoy listening to hasan, that's allowed. but the guy is a textbook narcissist backed by unlimited funds just in it for the attention and sex who has openly admitted that he doesn't research anything before he does his rare debates and is the epitome of hypocrisy anytime he talks about what people's stances and beliefs should be. if he looked like destiny/vaush/asmon he would have 0 following

[Karbuncle]

there would be a very long compilation of me stepping on her tail in the dark

The worst you could find on me and my pet is telling him in an exaggerated cute voice i'm going to strangle him if he keeps walking on my keyboard while I'm working, while I snuggle the shit out of him and pet him for doing it, thus rewarding the behavior I want to prevent. Yet its a vicious cycle I will continue to enjoy because I love my pet.

Oh and I guess the one time I closed a door on my cats tail by accident and immediately opened it in terror and picked him up and pet and cuddled the shit out of him saying sorry while he desperately attempted escape. Lock me up boss.

[Obsidian]

[thetruepandagod]

i was quite the monster, i would play with the hair between her paws which she absolutely hated.

[Karbuncle]

i was quite the monster, i would play with the hair between her paws which she absolutely hated.

Thank god we're not streamers, we'd of been canceled so long ago

[Meresgi]

Dr. Oz is a real-ass doctor who was doing influencer shit before he got tapped - probably still is but idk. By your exact logic he is 100% credible. Does that help you maybe see the error in your judgment?

Dr Oz is 100% credible as a heart surgeon which he is amazingly good at and that was his specialty before he realized he could make bank grifting like crazy instead, listen to the behind the bastards on him, dude was astounding for anything heart related. Dr K is credible as a psychiatrist because that's his profession as well.

Also Dr Oz's credibility was very tainted over all that he did, while I would still take into consideration any recommendations he had from the past for heart health I would take any recent recommendations about heart health with the tinge of "let me fact check this with other doctors". Has Dr. K destroyed his credibility in some way beyond "I don't agree with him"? Has he been grifting sleep aid diet pills or something else to his base of support and using his knowledge of psychiatry for nefarious purposes? Because I have only ever seen him talking to streamers via interviews or commenting on male and female issues and internet culture but please enlighten me.

you can enjoy listening to hasan, that's allowed. but the guy is a textbook narcissist backed by unlimited funds just in it for the attention and sex who has openly admitted that he doesn't research anything before he does his rare debates and is the epitome of hypocrisy anytime he talks about what people's stances and beliefs should be. if he looked like destiny/vaush/asmon he would have 0 following

Yes, he is a narcissist....all the fucking streamers are and I think he's even self admitted that? I know he's self admitted being a hedonist. Destiny/Vaush and Asmon have a shit ton of followers and they're all fucking shills and narcissistic as fuck too. You think Asmon is doing research of any type on literally anything? Destiny got dragged through the mud during his Israel shit. Link me to where Hasan says he's never done any research on any of the topics he talks about...or are you talking just debates? again I give 0 shits about debates because they are 100% just "I got my minute, you get yours, we pretend to argue and bitch and nothing gets changed or done and then we go get a drink afterwards".

You hate him, I get it, cool. The dog thing is fucked if true, but time and time again it's all just clips versus first hand accounts of people who have been around the dog saying otherwise. Do I believe Qt and Ludwig and others? More then the initial clips, the clip of Hasan pulling on the dogs tail needs to be be responded to but i'll reference the Dr K vid again.

Say he did do it? What would his response be? Exactly what he's doing right now.
Say he DIDN'T do it? What would his response be?....Exactly what he's doing now.

[kuronosan]

Dr. Oz is a fucking quack and nobody in the medical community respects him in the slightest.

[thetruepandagod]

You hate him, I get it, cool.

i hate all of them. but no one is erroneously defending the others right now. just you erroneously defending hasan.

[Lyltia]

Oz got his start by trading on his experience as a legit heart doctor, but quickly realized that he could make more and more money by telling his audience what they wanted to hear and then packaging and selling it to them. He was being rewarded for his bad behavior by a system that rewarded bad behavior. This phenomena is now orders of magnitude worse. If you are watching influencer bullshit you’re just getting in on the ground floor of every dipshit online that dreams of being the next Oz, such as it exists today. They all want to grow their audience and make more money, and the system rewards anything that drives engagement. Why else would this super-respected psychiatrist Dr J or whatever be even remotely concerned about whatever the dog shocker is up to? Last I checked that wasn’t really a psychiatrist’s remit.