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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    This is a bad analogy because those people aren't getting discharged and infecting 5+ more people, leading to more hospital admissions.

    We turn down people for life saving procedures everyday because of the choices they make. Alcoholics aren't getting liver transplants. Smokers aren't getting lung transplants.

    Not saying I agree or disagree just that the analogy is bad and pretending that personal choices do not affect whether or not you get life saving treatment is simply wrong.
    Thats not the analogy im making though, these people are taking up hospital beds

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    Well, if that's the argument, then those pathologies don't really necessitate the resource allocation we see here.

    As I said, I don't think cutting off care for these people is what really needs to be done. Just make vaccines a requirement for any government assistance. The patient population we see now are typically low income and underinsured. Many seek financial help after discharge, even if they're insured. Medicaid will backpay. If they're already on Medicaid or Medicare, make them get vaccinated. Will save the government money from prolonged hospital admissions in high levels of care. Make them get vaccinated or face bankruptcy. I'm 100% ok with that. There's too many gray areas with withholding care and the triage decisions can be rather complicated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    Thats not the analogy im making though, these people are taking up hospital beds
    And none of the diseases, complications or admission criteria you listed require the amount of man power, resources/drugs or time spent admitted to treat vs Covid.

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    What if you just treated people that needed help like you signed up to do instead of dreaming up ways to discriminate against people ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkster View Post
    And none of the diseases, complications or admission criteria you listed require the amount of man power, resources/drugs or time spent admitted to treat vs Covid.
    they do require those things though, and that's taking away from healthy people that made great life decisions that are in need of help

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    But you do understand now that they can't treat people that need help right? It's coming down to who they can and can't save.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    they do require those things though, and that's taking away from healthy people that made great life decisions that are in need of help
    The covid set up and protocols are way more intricate and require much more than anything you listed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkster View Post
    But you do understand now that they can't treat people that need help right? It's coming down to who they can and can't save.
    Yeah and we should let BG posters decide who lives and dies

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    You guys are acting like these are policies that might be put in place... because someone on BG posted it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    Yeah and we should let BG posters decide who lives and dies
    I dont know why your so hung up on saving people who are actively making our lives worse.

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    empathy and compassion, pretty terrible traits to have

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuronosan View Post
    I'm sorry Salodin but your logic is so mind-numbingly stupid. You and several people you know would be fucking dead if things were done your way.

    Just step the fuck aside.
    Bitch you just straight don't know me or my situation. You're a doctor literally making shit up about me to justify your position. Just stop. You can just disagree with me, that's okay. You don't have to make up nonsense to justify it though.

    My wife nearly lost her fertility because of unvaxed fools, full stop. How many people actually lost their fertility cause hospitals were overcrowded? How many people died cause they couldn't receive non covid related care because the hospital was full with unvaxed cases? Get the fuck out of here with that, these are real people with real problems trying to figure out what's best for them and their community. What's best isn't letting unvaxed people crowd hospitals until the end of times, hoping herd immunity will eventually be enough.

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    Plot twist: the vax caused your wifes problems

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    Well, if that's the argument, then those pathologies don't really necessitate the resource allocation we see here.

    As I said, I don't think cutting off care for these people is what really needs to be done. Just make vaccines a requirement for any government assistance. The patient population we see now are typically low income and underinsured. Many seek financial help after discharge, even if they're insured. Medicaid will backpay. If they're already on Medicaid or Medicare, make them get vaccinated. Will save the government money from prolonged hospital admissions in high levels of care. Make them get vaccinated or face bankruptcy. I'm 100% ok with that. There's too many gray areas with withholding care and the triage decisions can be rather complicated.
    I'm ok with this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salodin View Post
    Pretty sure the doctors would tell her to get the shot

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    a lot of doctors actually do not simply because there isn't much hard data on it. i know because a friend of mine is in this exact situation and her doctor specifically told her to wait and we're talking up in here canadia where 80% of the population is vaxxed and it's not as much of a hot button topic

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    She could just get a new parasite after the first one fails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salodin View Post
    Bitch you just straight don't know me or my situation. You're a doctor literally making shit up about me to justify your position. Just stop. You can just disagree with me, that's okay. You don't have to make up nonsense to justify it though.

    My wife nearly lost her fertility because of unvaxed fools, full stop. How many people actually lost their fertility cause hospitals were overcrowded? How many people died cause they couldn't receive non covid related care because the hospital was full with unvaxed cases? Get the fuck out of here with that, these are real people with real problems trying to figure out what's best for them and their community. What's best isn't letting unvaxed people crowd hospitals until the end of times, hoping herd immunity will eventually be enough.

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    You're forgetting Kuro is psychiatric medicine resident. So like... lol. I'd just keep it moving. His training in acute care is minimal at best. Very Rand Paul energy.

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    I don't like to disrespect him even if my post doesn't seem like it LOL

    He is definitely not a janitor

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    Oh haha now yall take that "not a real doctor" stance all of a sudden, how the turn tables turn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrbeansman View Post
    She could just get a new parasite after the first one fails.

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