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    START Triage and label all Covid patients as black tags if they can't breathe on their own and ICU's are full. Then resuscitation is not attempted and resources not wasted, move on to red tags.

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...ination-covid/

    Portugal is 85% vaccinated on the good stuff and still doesn't have herd immunity.

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    Dont herd immunity projections presume that the vaccine provides full immunity? Whats the herd immunity rate when the vaccine doesnt provide immunity nor fully prevent spread of the virus? Is herd immunity even possible under such a scenario?

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    R0 is the number of people infected by each infected person at time 0 (before mitigation via public policy and before anyone gains any immunity). If the R number drops below 1, your number of cases goes down and eventually the virus dies out.

    So if you start with an R0 of 4 and mitigate 90% of the transmission risk via immunity (gained from vaccination or infection) or public policy (masks inside), your R is now 0.4 and the epidemic dies out.

    If you have 85% of the population vaccinated with a 90% effective virus, you should be able to handle a virus with an R0 of up to 4.25 with no public mitigation. However, Portugal has this, still has some indoor masking requirements, has digital vaccination passports, and is still seeing community spread. Delta is thought to be around 6 for R0 iirc, so this more or less makes sense.

    Their submarine captain implied it was those darned colonies' faults (cases being imported by travelers), but the author was less definitive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    Dont herd immunity projections presume that the vaccine provides full immunity? Whats the herd immunity rate when the vaccine doesnt provide immunity nor fully prevent spread of the virus? Is herd immunity even possible under such a scenario?
    It's a dance between how contagious the disease is and how effective the vaccine is. Measles is the most contagious major disease humanity has probably ever faced, but a 97% effective vaccine took care of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
    It's a dance between how contagious the disease is and how effective the vaccine is. Measles is the most contagious major disease humanity has probably ever faced, but a 97% effective vaccine took care of it.
    You also have to factor how widespread the vaccine was too though. I wanna say measles would be rocking us with only 85% of the population vaccinated

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrath View Post
    You also have to factor how widespread the vaccine was too though. I wanna say measles would be rocking us with only 85% of the population vaccinated
    Yeah, it would be more prevalent - I think we're ~95% vaccinated against measles nationwide but there's still outbreaks in small communities every year.

    But again, because the vaccine is 97% effective it's one of those things you basically don't have to worry about if you got the shot.

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    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-58757888

    Australia to reopen their borders to international travel of it's citizens in November.

    People would be eligible to travel when their state's vaccination rate hit 80%, Mr Morrison told a press briefing on Friday.

    Travel would not immediately be open to foreigners, but the government said it was working "towards welcoming tourists back to our shores".

    Mr Morrison said Australia's mandatory 14-day hotel quarantine - which costs each traveller A$3,000 (£1,600; $2,100) - would be replaced by seven days of home quarantine for vaccinated Australians or permanent residents.

    Unvaccinated travellers must still quarantine for 14 days in hotels.

    Australian carrier Qantas responded by announcing it would restart its international flying a month earlier. It had already put flights to major overseas destinations on sale from 18 December.

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    https://wset.com/news/coronavirus/2-...-in-3-day-span

    Two children age 10 and under have died after getting infected at their elementary school in Virginia.

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    Gavin Newsom is requiring all California K-12 students to be vaccinated by Fall 2022.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6souls View Post
    Gavin Newsom is requiring all California K-12 students to be vaccinated by Fall 2022.
    *Contingent on FDA approval of a vaccine for relevant age groups.

    The vaccine mandate is applicable to public AND private schools.

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    I'm glad LAUSD is requiring it for the spring semester 2022 for 12+, hope other schools do the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6souls View Post
    Gavin Newsom is requiring all California K-12 students to be vaccinated by Fall 2022.
    Does California currently require any other vaccinations?

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    Shots in California that are needed for K-12 education include polio, measles, mumps, rubella, varicella, hepatitis B, diphtheria, tetanus and pertussis.
    California allows only medical exemptions to vaccines. In 2016, California ended the practice of allowing parents of schoolchildren to seek an exemption from vaccinations due to the family’s personal beliefs.

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    Eminem coming out surprisingly hard against getting fully vaccinated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    Eminem coming out surprisingly hard against getting fully vaccinated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    Eminem coming out surprisingly hard against getting fully vaccinated.

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    Bah, so is Royce... Just need T9 to jump in and the majority of my favorite rap artists are anti-vax....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yabby View Post
    Bah, so is Royce... Just need T9 to jump in and the majority of my favorite rap artists are anti-vax....
    Yeah man he's really adamant that you only get one shot.

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    Mother fucker why am I so pissed i didn't see that shit.

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