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[Dotsudoku]

out of curiosity, if you were on a reservation right now and an x-generation inhabitant self identified as indian would you call them a fucking moron?

[Tyrath]

It's unlikely to happen since you keep missing the fact that Indian and American Indian are 2 different terms. Even your outdated statistic was talking about American Indian.

[Roranora]

it's been guardians for 3 years now guys

[Dotsudoku]

It's unlikely to happen since you keep missing the fact that Indian and American Indian are 2 different terms. Even your outdated statistic was talking about American Indian.

didn't ask you how likely it was to happen. indigenous people in some number exist that would have you call them indians if not their proper tribal name. would you or would you not call them fucking morons?

[Tyrath]

I don't care what you asked. It comes from a flawed premise and doesn't deserve a response.

[Dotsudoku]

just so we're on the same page, you're now asserting that no indigenous people would have you refer to them as indians secondarily to their proper tribal name?

[Tyrath]

Nope, I said no such thing. The only thing I'm asserting is you're a moron for trying to die on this hill

[Dotsudoku]

man who accuses me of being unwilling to change behavior based on new information refuses to change behavior based on new information

okie dokie artichoke

[Tyrath]

New information that you pulled out of your ass, yes.

[Melena]

[Salodin]

This

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[Xno Kappa]

it's been guardians for 3 years now guys

This guy gets it.

[Kaslo]

I tend to always go by this rule.

https://twitter.com/brettachapman/st...27732999995393

Regardless, this is a dumb AF derail.

[Andalusian girls]

in the least standoffish way possible, I'd be curious to see where this came from

as of 1995 it seems roughly 50% preferred american indian

https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/docume...277ed4c838c6c1

Indigenous and/or Native are becoming the standardized norm in academia and younger students favor them above all else in my anecdotal experience in the UC system's history departments + reading academic literature both by and about them. i am sure as with most these things there is a stark generational divide, but can say they have certainly caught on in a way Latinx has not despite the larger push for the latter.

the data presented is uh very bad as it is 30 years old, 0.76% of respondents were either self-reported Indigenous or Alaskan Natives with no differentiation between them, American Indian is not the same as just Indian, and it was landline based which excluded the bottom 7-8%ish of the country (whomst of course would be heavily overrepresented on reservations). will say it is frustrating a cursory google search on my end showed no better quantitative set than this you found, seems a polling question that ought have better and more easily accessible data. but, even allowing its accuracy, it shows i think my second point, that there is no consensus. you'd still be flipping a coin.

[Andalusian girls]

fwiw i don't like Indian either despite its federal appellation simply because as Tyrath points out it is quite indistinct, conjoining two entirely distinct cultures (and reinforces without comment Columbus's idiocy, historical idiocy ought never be reinforced). a person tells me what they want me to call them i will call them that, in its absence, Indigenous, Native American, Amerindian all float my boat.

[Dotsudoku]

good to know, thanks

[Bardicrune]

Here's my rule, just call everyone a dumbass, then you're always correct.

[Tyrath]

I've been irritable all day and I apologize, Dotsudoku, for specifically calling you names. AG did a better job of saying what I was whereas I was just picking a fight.

[Dotsudoku]

all good homie, I also could have just dropped it

[Byrthnoth]

I think that we should ask Liz Warren what to call them if we really want to get to the bottom of this.