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    Quote Originally Posted by Anoat View Post
    I finished the Queens Blood storyline and you don’t even get a trophy, what bullshit.
    Was the storyline itself worth it? I've long since appreciated that Nintendo moved on from trophies because that stuff isn't actually all that satisfying at all.

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    it's legit bonkers to me people do content just for the achievements or get upset at content for not having achievements tied to them, based Nintendo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andalusian girls View Post
    it's legit bonkers to me people do content just for the achievements or get upset at content for not having achievements tied to them, based Nintendo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrath View Post
    Was the storyline itself worth it? I've long since appreciated that Nintendo moved on from trophies because that stuff isn't actually all that satisfying at all.
    It’s ok. It’s a Rebirth original with no ties at all to OG FF7 so in that aspect it’s new and different.

    You get a couple really good cards for completing the storyline which paired with the right deck will probably make doing the gold saucer challenges and survival modes a lot easier.

    I just wanted my lil bleep boop endorphin rush

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    If you finish all the protorelic quests it opens up some insane combat simulator battles starting in chapter 13
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    Kujata + Phoenix, Odin + Alexander, Titan + Bahamut Arisen

    They are insanely fun and challenging, there’s a few instant wipes if you don’t do mechanics properly and pay attention but it doesn’t feel cheap, there are ways to get around it if you prepare properly, felt like a nice mix of challenge and strategy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andalusian girls View Post
    it's legit bonkers to me people do content just for the achievements or get upset at content for not having achievements tied to them, based Nintendo
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    The only stuff I've skipped so far is the Crunch-off contest because honestly fuck that minigame even on Easy.

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    Just have fun with it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andalusian girls View Post
    it's legit bonkers to me people do content just for the achievements or get upset at content for not having achievements tied to them, based Nintendo
    I mean everything comes down to how video games are designed to hijack the reward response from our brain.

    Like the superbosses in FF games always give the best gear, but that gear is sort of irrelevant when you consider that you just surpassed the greatest challenge without that gear. A large number of us will do the bosses for the sake of completion, but we'd get irrationally irritated for getting nothing out of it.

    Achievements/trophies were just a way for game developers to make doing/mastering certain less obvious tasks a goal without having to tie in an in-game reward to it. Now we've come full circle that we expect at least an achievement for doing something if it doesn't give an in-game reward.

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    The Cactuar Smash mini game for Aerith drove me insane. I legit gave up and will do later, I read it becomes easier if you have Transcendence from Folio, which I have almost obtained.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bori View Post
    The Cactuar Smash mini game for Aerith drove me insane. I legit gave up and will do later, I read it becomes easier if you have Transcendence from Folio, which I have almost obtained.
    I never did this to begin with so went back to clearing that earlier and did this part, is the hard part getting max rewards? Because I hit rank 2 on my 2nd try. Only mechanic I really picked up on so far is some you want L2 for, some R2, and then some you want to do neither. Not sure exactly how to trigger between her physical attack and magic but if you figure that out that can probably push you to the max rewards lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanriel View Post
    I never did this to begin with so went back to clearing that earlier and did this part, is the hard part getting max rewards? Because I hit rank 2 on my 2nd try. Only mechanic I really picked up on so far is some you want L2 for, some R2, and then some you want to do neither. Not sure exactly how to trigger between her physical attack and magic but if you figure that out that can probably push you to the max rewards lol
    the hard part is just doing it on hard mode, the Gigantuars, especially the gold ones just take way too long to kill without Trancendance, and you need to kill most every enemy without getting hit to beat it, there's some leeway of course but it's not as much as you'd think

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    Ahh, I never get too pumped for hard mode stuff so haven't really ventured there. I'm thinking I might do some of that stuff in the PC version if there are some neat mods for it. Specifically I'd love to get to make a party without Cloud before having to beat the game. Was kinda hoping you could start a new game with completed Rebirth data and get to have the unlock content but start over at base. I'd also love a tweak to allow item usage in hard modes, but maybe nerf mp restoration items and keep it so benches are nerfed. I kinda hate the no item aspect for hard mode on its face, just make keeping item stock harder so it's a money grinding issue. I want to do an item-only play with the two materia for item usage but then I'd get boned for combat sim fights, so I figure mods could allow some changes like that with some ways to decently balance it.

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    I just got to chapter 14 and what in the hell
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    of Evangelion final 2 episodes is going on? Like I just got here, but if this is just the start of the Nomura shit show, maybe I should quit while I am ahead. I won't REALLY do that, but I'm sure I'm about to get incensed lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odesseiron View Post
    I just got to chapter 14 and what in the hell
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    of Evangelion final 2 episodes is going on? Like I just got here, but if this is just the start of the Nomura shit show, maybe I should quit while I am ahead. I won't REALLY do that, but I'm sure I'm about to get incensed lol.
    Buckle up, buckaroo

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    Yeah I'm gonna finish it tomorrow. I'm high as it is, so I don't want to be extra befuddled.

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    lol I’m halfway~ thru chapter 13 and decided to call it for the night. Probably gonna try to push to the end tomorrow.

    All of the fights for completing the protorelic questline were the most fun in the game so far. As I mentioned earlier, challenging but not cheap, difficult but not frustrating. Just how I like it. The combat simulator battles I actually surprisingly went 1/1 on and each one took several minutes but I got there. The final battle against
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    took me a few tries because I got unlucky being weakened or frogged when he started to countdown and I couldn’t spam damage to interrupt. Highly recommend any setup that fills your limit gauge quickly for that fight so you’ll always have one in the pocket to use in an emergency. The item economizer materia also came in clutch so I could spam mist giga potions without losing an ATB bar.

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    well, the ending sucked but at least the last couple chapters flowed better gameplay-wise than the godawful end of remake. great game, crap ending. we'll see what happens in 3

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    I was okay with the ending just believing

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    They really wanted to make this game (rebirth) about Aerith. So all the Sector 7 stuff, and Cloud seeing her during the sendoff, was just to help build up her story. Ignore the R3verse stuff of it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celeras View Post
    Alright, let's do it.

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    Let's not bury the lede.. the ending. My interpretation is as follows: Aerith pulls Cloud into the multiverse in order to give him a still-functioning holy materia to bring to his "world" because the materia in her possession there has gone translucent. This occurs in a previously unseen "world" with a new stamp, and in the following scenes we see Aerith push Cloud between worlds, various outcomes of Zack making decisions in multiple other "worlds", and Sephiroth stating the "worlds" are uniting. For reasons unbeknownst to me (and feel free to chime in), the catalyst for this happening was Cloud+Aerith plummeting after being struck by Sephiroth. And also unbeknownst to me, we reconvene at the Forgotten Capital with no bridge of the events that occurred in the main world after the fall while we were world hopping.

    Even in a bubble without getting into what happens afterwards.. that was physically painful to write. What a convoluted mess. And when you do take into account what follows, it's a goddamn tragedy. I thought FF16's ending was mildly irritating with its "up for interpretation" bullshit leaving everyone with blue balls/without closure, but you know what's worse? LITERALLY showing both outcomes and completely undermining the impact of THE moment. Yes, THE Aerith moment. She's saved, then she's dead, because MuLtIpLe WoRlDs! "But ok she's dead in this one haha". A mere hour after tugging at my heartstrings by making me play as little girl Aerith looking for help to save her dying mother, you completely botch what everyone knew was the most important moment in the game. I don't even want to talk about what follows, because fuck off. Cloud still sees Aerith, he's sees the fractured sky nobody else does, and finds a black materia in his pocket(a second materia, or the translucent materia Aerith swapped with him turned black?). Blah, Blah, BLAH.

    The game was CRUISING up until this point. I thought it was great. Yes Chadley/MIA were annoying as hell, and sure the world intel got repetitive (except for a few standouts, protorelics were mostly good and a few quests were as well), but the gripes were minor. I played meticulously and did everything along the way thinking "hell yeah I'm gonna platinum this thing". I thought the combat was improved from Remake, where I remember alot of encounters giving me the stop sign mid-stagger and frustrating the hell out of me for playing optimally. That only happened two or three times in this one in understandable situations... until the final boss, where it happened like a half dozen times as the entire thing unraveled for me.

    Other random thoughts:
    - The minigames were mostly fun, and the ones that weren't so much didn't really overstay their welcome. They did a good job. I liked Queen's Blood, and at first I thought they were setting up a cool little story behind it. That flopped and it ended up being lame as hell, but it was still a fun game.
    - They got me good with that chicken quest, I was two seconds from going to the title screen if I actually had to lead that fucker all the way back. The funny ending did not make up for it, what a nightmare lol.
    - These Moogles are easily the worst I can remember. White Teddy Ruxpin looking mofos, gross.
    - Probably the only good thing I can say about Chapter 14, I did appreciate the subtlety of giving every single character except Cloud (who still sees Aerith) a full limit bar to start the final boss fight. Clever, even if I hate the reasons for it.
    - Music was insane, everything had it's own track and it BOPPED.
    I agree with you almost word for word, after finishing it.

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    This was my interpretation as I was watching it all unfold. There were some very clear indications of shifts between reality as all of that going on. Like when it "cuts and does static" it's an alternate reality and it's like. Who thought this was good? Nomura, that's who, I guess lol. What Kingdom Hearts nonsense. I'm not as angry as the rest of the internet is about this ending, I still think it's massively stupid and over complicated to an unnecessary degree. I wouldn't put it past them to have some ending in the next game to have an ending where all the worlds unite and everyone lives happily ever after. Which fine. Just don't tell it like a bunch of idiots. The game was a 9/10 all the way to Chapter 13. And then it just fucking big wet farted.

    I am also not ashamed to admit I was crying the entire time while playing as Aerith as a child looking for a doctor. Good lord how heartbreaking.



    I don't read Japanese, but if anyone does, how do the Japanese players feel about this ending? I can't imagine much of anyone liking it.

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