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    I think you are hyper focused on the Big Thing At The End and are willfully ignoring a shit load of things that are different from the original

    It’s not a remake, it’s a sequel to everything post Advent Children and that’s been pretty obvious I thought to most people

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    Seeing the recent replies compels me to post this. It sort of really really explains it I felt, and it's 3 hours long, which I felt was worth it. This video is Max reacting to it along with his input, which enhances the video. If you don't like Max then the source video is in the description inside this video:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gredival View Post
    It's been longer since I played the ending but
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    I felt like they did the scene very well. I can understand a letdown if you really thought they would branch off at the end and make Part 3 a totally different game by having her survive which would have implications for her summoning Holy.

    But there was definitely a point in it beyond blue balling you from the suspense. By traversing to the alternate reality, Aerith was able to switch her white materia with the one from the dead world but Cloud also brings back the black materia. The reason why the white materia and black materia had to be Endgame heisted is yet to be discovered, but it's obviously something that is going to be relevant in Part 3.
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    iirc original Cloud loses the black materia twice as well, in the North and Temple. Nothing has really changed. Holy was AWOL after Aeriths death so I don't think much on an empty materia that disappeared anyways after her death in the original. Both materia can end up the same in the sequel and it wouldn't be incongruent with what they've shown so far. If the timeline bullshit doesnt pay off in the 3rd game then jfc what a wasted opportunity after all these red herrings. Zack mentions as much in the ending, but also


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    Quote Originally Posted by Anoat View Post
    I think you are hyper focused on the Big Thing At The End and are willfully ignoring a shit load of things that are different from the original

    It’s not a remake, it’s a sequel to everything post Advent Children and that’s been pretty obvious I thought to most people
    Yes, the journey is definitely different. But the important story beats remain the same. Anything pivotal in the original plot remains pivotal here which I was not expecting cause timeline changes and all that.

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    1. Gamers should’ve stfu with Aerith’s death from the beginning. Death is a part of life, grief is a part of life. Sometimes things just don’t go with how we want.

    2. SE shouldn’t have caved into the demands of the playerbase in such a half-assed manner. Should’ve just ripped the band aid, maybe have more Aerith cutscenes, prequels and if they really’ve wanted a DLC or something.

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    I don't think this is them trying to cater to gamers lol I think this is them trying to subvert expectations. They've said as much

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    Maybe, but
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    they'll have to wait til the 3rd game to try cause every major plot point remains unchanged.

    Even the actual plot changes are from an alternate universe that as of now don't affect current canon in the trilogy ughhhh lol I'm not bitter about the time I put into this game at alllll


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    I don't mean that they are going to change the plot. They are going to make you think they are and keep asking questions until the end lol

    I'm not bitter about the time spent in the game at all though because it was still a blast. Journey before destination young padawan

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    Fake subverting expectations in order to subvert expectations dayum this game 2deep for me

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    I dunno, I think there are still relevant changes in our timeline. Like adding characters from the Compilation games, the stuff about GI, the upcoming Wutai conflict... And probably more I'm forgetting. They expanded the lore in some interesting ways imo

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    Queen’s Blood having an actual story instead of just being a fun minigame

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gokulo View Post
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    I dunno, I think there are still relevant changes in our timeline. Like adding characters from the Compilation games, the stuff about GI, the upcoming Wutai conflict... And probably more I'm forgetting. They expanded the lore in some interesting ways imo
    I think expanding the lore is not the same thing as changing the lore

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salodin View Post
    Fake subverting expectations in order to subvert expectations dayum this game 2deep for me

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    Did you buy it? Ultimately, the sales will be the determining factor to SE. If you bought the first two and are pissed at how things have gone, you have your answer as to whether to buy the third.

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    Well the game was absolutely fantastic man. Yeah I am not happy about the time/alternate shenanigans but everything else was fucking amazing.

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    It was one of the most enjoyable JRPG's I've ever played, I didn't like the way they've handled Aerith part but I am not gonna chalk the game off for that lol.

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    Perhaps Kenny Crow will make a cameo in Part 3.

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    Yeah the gameplay is top tier, and not just for a jrpg. I enjoyed a lot of it, but I'm just mega let down by how much focus there was on possibly changing the future a.k.a. lore, and then just ending this game the way they did.

    Other than that though the game was great fan service.

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    Playing a Tetsuya Nomura story and being upset it's a Tetsuya Nomura story is certainly a choice lol

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    Did we ask them to make Nomura do the remakes?

    Just because hes doing it and we know what shit he pulls doesn't mean we can't be mad at shenanigans

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    FF7 thread bumped? Time to do my civic duty and agree with any and all critiques, and tell the defense squad that they are dumb and wrong.

    Now go play Expedition 33 as a palette cleanser.

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