Throne & Liberty/Project TL (PC/PS5/XSX) - Lineage 3

[Rulke]

Combat is 2009 style tab- target. I know lots don't like it.

Thanks for the info. After playing Tera I pretty much signed off from tab target mmorpgs. Bdo only cemented that feeling. However after 2 years of FFXIV and how they integrated so much movement into tab target I've softened again on it. From what I've seen battle looks fine and fast pace.

[Bombur]

Amazon Games will be having a CBT for the west. It will be from Apr. 10 - 17th. Selected players will receive their invitation via email on Apr. 2. The CBT will be under NDA.

You can sign up here :

https://www.playthroneandliberty.com/en-us/sign-up

[Prothescar]

At risk of breaching NDA: I got in

[Rulke]

Same.

[Bombur]

Congrats to you both !!

I am already playing on KR, so will probably just peek at the beta to see what, if anything substantial, is changing.


Ncsoft has reduced regular mob Hp by 85%, and keeps boosting xp gains since launch. So anyone can easily solo to endgame now. It's at endgame, where it becomes a massive grindfest. You have to lvl up skills on your weapons, and gather mats to rng upgrade your gear.

At endgame you won't be able to solo very much. You pretty much have to belong to a big active guild.

Also don't believe a word that Amazon says. It's forced PVP at endgame. Trust me on this.

[Prothescar]

so im not gonna risk incurring the wrath of Amazon on BG and actually say anything in detail but my initial impressions are extremely positive

[Celeras]

Mine are not. Production value in the intro was good, it's pretty, and I like games that let you hotswap weapons like that. But that's about the only positives I can muster. UI is a fucking disaster and even if I wanted to learn all through all the clutter they throw at you, theres a very clear P2W shop right out of the gate that kills that thought immediately. "Action" combat mode still requires tab targeting so I don't even know what the point of it is. No idea what theyre going for or how it at all would make for an interesting PvP game.

Same ol' out of Korea.

[Bombur]

Amazon has announced that T&L will launch on Sept. 17th. With an Open Beta on July 18.

https://www.playthroneandliberty.com/en-us

[Kachiko]

@1:27 in the video, I watched a four way guild fight to down the creature; just an insane amount of people. Found the video:



Stay away if you don't like PvP in your game; plenty to go around here. Big Castle Siege video:

[Bombur]

This is what happens in Korea. I don't know what Amazon will be doing.

The game has a Day/Night cycle. When it is day, it is PVE only. When it is night, it is PVP.

In Korea it's a 3 hour cycle between day and night. Also this game has events, just like in GW2. It can be either a PVE event or a PVP event. When a pvp event happens, the area around an event becomes PVP. These last 30 mins.

Riftstones and Boonstones go open 2x per week. The winning guild can control the nearby dungeons/territory. The guild can turn on PVE or PVP.

Castle Seiges are every 2 weeks on Sunday nights.

Super World bosses are called Arch-bosses, they are just like Kings in FFXI. They spawn at noon (Korea time) and midnight. When they spawn at noon, it will be during daytime, so it will be PVE only. When they spawn at midnight, it will be during the night, so it will be PVP.

[Bombur]

Open Beta starts on July 18th at 10am pst if anyone is interested.

[Celeras]

Mine are not. Production value in the intro was good, it's pretty, and I like games that let you hotswap weapons like that. But that's about the only positives I can muster. UI is a fucking disaster and even if I wanted to learn all through all the clutter they throw at you, theres a very clear P2W shop right out of the gate that kills that thought immediately. "Action" combat mode still requires tab targeting so I don't even know what the point of it is. No idea what theyre going for or how it at all would make for an interesting PvP game.

Same ol' out of Korea.

I stand by what I said. P2W aspects are absolute garbage, and the PvP (world bosses in conflict in particular) are the worst parts of the game.

However, I knew people who wanted to try it out so I put in some time with the homies. There's some fun to be had, mainly in the world and in the pve gameplay (story is.... not final fantasy). As long as you go into it knowing that you don't want to engage with the money grabs, you could probably do worse as a F2P time waster if you're starved for an MMO. I probably got 30+ hours deep before I felt it.

[Kachiko]

There's a lot of fun to be had, and the P2W elements are tiny, comparatively. Playing a couple of days at L50 can get you the battle pass and leveling pass for free, which is 90% of the power you get from the money shop. They rest of the whales are at the PvP world bosses or maybe the island at night, for the chests, which specifically, you won't be at anyways because that content isn't for you. Whatever the influence is for damage done to boss is negligible compared to the RNG of the drop system as is. Ive <10 manned some world bosses and no drops went to my 6 person party, which would have dealt most of the damage. Even in the castle sieges, you can steal money as a guild and raid the tax event with the rest of the server, so even then, there's stuff for the non-castle guild.