SCOTUS Thread (News and Discussion) III: Abandoning 90 Years of Precedent

[Mrbeansman]

Genuine question incoming, with zero sarcasm intended:

How should I have posted that link? With no commentary? With different commentary? "Consider voting in-person this Fall"?

Well you see this

God you're so insufferable stop fucking panicking.

Just don't do this like I can't believe mods just let this shit fly it and 40 other variants don't add anything and aren't and have never been funny

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[Obsidian]

I didn't do that though and the way the comments read to me sounded like what I posted is what triggered everybody. If I misinterpreted then that's my bad I suppose.

[Mrbeansman]

kuro said it in another thread, but the actions we're waiting on the courts to fix are hurting people right now.

None of y'all seem to realize what a meaningless point this is. No shit people are getting hurt right now. It's just you throwing a tantrum that the magic courts fairy won't come to your bed at night and fix everything. When in the real world this shit is a long and arduous process. Sorry people or suffering elections have consequences.

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[Mrbeansman]

I didn't do that though and the way the comments read to me sounded like what I posted is what triggered everybody. If I misinterpreted then that's my bad I suppose.

You literally did nothing wrong Kuro is just a retarded cunt.

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[synistar]

Why are you all dogpiling on a Canadian who is objectively posting news? Like I see nothing wrong with what Obs posted.

[Meresgi]

But you also have the doomers responding to every positive court outcome as "LOL GOOD LUCK ENFORCING!"

It sure feels like they just want to complain to complain.

Or....could be just pointing out that the court making a rule doesn't really impact anything when no one enforces said rulings. We're not operating under pre 2016 rules anymore. There's no "well you have to cuz it's not nice not to". When dude learned he wouldn't go to jail for inciting a riot for fuck sake that meant there was nothing they couldn't do to impact them.

[Mrbeansman]

Or....could be just pointing out that the court making a rule doesn't really impact anything when no one enforces said rulings. We're not operating under pre 2016 rules anymore. There's no "well you have to cuz it's not nice not to". When dude learned he wouldn't go to jail for inciting a riot for fuck sake that meant there was nothing they couldn't do to impact them.

Yes this is why Trump immediately issued new tariffs *checks notes* within the guidelines laid out to him by the courts.

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[Tyrath]

Just wait til Trump applies legal tarrifs using the powers he actually can wield. It'll go from "the courts will handle it" to "the courts did handle it, there is nothing illegal about this, vote better next time"

Fucking gottem lol

[Karbuncle]

Fucking gottem lol

[kuronosan]

Once again I'm gonna ask how I should have posted to avoid this explosion. It certainly doesn't read like a great decision to me as a layman. Am I wrong? Was this a win? Should I have not said anything other than the link to the article? Was posting it at all the mistake?

You did nothing wrong dude.

Yes this is why Trump immediately issued new tariffs *checks notes* within the guidelines laid out to him by the courts.

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It's dumb shit like this that's unhelpful. Almost the equivalent of "sure he fucked up the economy but did the courts let him KEEP getting away with it" or "sure they deported people illegally but did they still do it after the courts told him not to".

He did it. Was the damage undone? No? Okay, well to your average person that doesn't mean shit all.

The sooner some realize that, the better. It doesn't mean courts should move quickly. They move at the pace they do for a reason. The issue isn't even the courts at this point, it's the constant "you're dooming and glooming just let the courts cook".

There's absolutely nothing wrong with being skeptical of that when the courts didn't do fuck all about the Holocaust, and people are scared of the parallels.

Telling people to let the courts stop Trump from doing stupid shit don't understand that on the global stage this damage may be hard to undo, and for people affected by this it doesn't take much to say "okay I'm ignoring this corrupt court" and for people to go along with it, and that terrifies them.

So yeah, there are some who are tired of hearing about "lolcourts" but if I were in charge of a 20 bed hospital and 19 patients died a preventable death I'm not a fucking hero for saving the 20th when I could have saved 19 others if I'd have just done something the first time shit hit the fan.

Minimizing that fear is fucking ridiculous and I'm not going to pretend it's not.

[Krandor]

The guy who works in mental health telling everyone they're not being negative enough.

[Mrbeansman]

Kuro Godwining the thread the classic.

[Tyrath]

The guy who works in mental health telling everyone they're not being negative enough.

Shoving your head in the sand and pretending everything is fine isn't really a long term winning mental health strategy.

[Mrbeansman]

You did nothing wrong dude.



It's dumb shit like this that's unhelpful. Almost the equivalent of "sure he fucked up the economy but did the courts let him KEEP getting away with it" or "sure they deported people illegally but did they still do it after the courts told him not to".

He did it. Was the damage undone? No? Okay, well to your average person that doesn't mean shit all.

The sooner some realize that, the better. It doesn't mean courts should move quickly. They move at the pace they do for a reason. The issue isn't even the courts at this point, it's the constant "you're dooming and glooming just let the courts cook".

There's absolutely nothing wrong with being skeptical of that when the courts didn't do fuck all about the Holocaust, and people are scared of the parallels.

Telling people to let the courts stop Trump from doing stupid shit don't understand that on the global stage this damage may be hard to undo, and for people affected by this it doesn't take much to say "okay I'm ignoring this corrupt court" and for people to go along with it, and that terrifies them.

So yeah, there are some who are tired of hearing about "lolcourts" but if I were in charge of a 20 bed hospital and 19 patients died a preventable death I'm not a fucking hero for saving the 20th when I could have saved 19 others if I'd have just done something the first time shit hit the fan.

Minimizing that fear is fucking ridiculous and I'm not going to pretend it's not.

Yes I imagine people would love it if people were still being illegally deported or where still facing economy crushing tariffs clearly all that effort was for naught because lulz the damage has already been done.

[Krandor]

I'd say it's a better option than 24/7 dooming over things completely out of your control, but I'm not the guy who works in mental health.

[Meresgi]

Shoving your head in the sand and pretending everything is fine isn't really a long term winning mental health strategy.

No no you don't understand, everyone is dooming 24/7 despite being able to look back at tons of posts on this forum to see that isn't actually the case. People literally come to these threads to vent, talk shit about Trump or make fun of Leon being a stupid piece of shit. People also posting over in General/Gaming and other spots too. This is literally the place to be upset about the current admin murdering people and fucking up the economy.

And no, the courts ruling on this and just telling him how to and letting him do it another way doesn't mean jack fucking shit. He's still doing it. Oh wow, now he can't say he's going to tariff a random southeast asian island 90000% which everyone just laughed about anyways.

[Salodin]

I'd say it's a better option than 24/7 dooming over things completely out of your control, but I'm not the guy who works in mental health.

Have we moved onto overexaggerating now?

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[Tomiko]

None of y'all seem to realize what a meaningless point this is. No shit people are getting hurt right now. It's just you throwing a tantrum that the magic courts fairy won't come to your bed at night and fix everything. When in the real world this shit is a long and arduous process.

I know it's obviously not going to be fixed overnight, but again:

How many more Renee Goods & Alex Prettis will there be before the courts deal with ICE?

Is it going to take you personally being affected by what's going on before you care beyond "let the courts fix it?" How many more times do we need to see this administration violate constitutional amendments before you think "hey, maybe they aren't addressing this fast enough?"

What do YOU think people should be doing? Just sitting there quiet, waiting for courts to eventually/hopefully address the problems? Trust in a system that isn't enforcing established laws (unless it fits their narrative) that shouldn't need to go to courts?

Sorry people or suffering elections have consequences.

I typically agree with this if you voted for the person causing the issues, but a lot of the people suffering these consequences didn't vote for this shit.

[Mrbeansman]

What else do you reasonably think people can actually do outside of waiting on the courts? You know what would be a good start? Hold the leftist, the working class, and "muh genocide" people accountable for not voting and allowing this to happen

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[Meresgi]

What else do you reasonably think people can actually do outside of waiting on the courts? You know what would be a good start? Hold the leftist, the working class, and "muh genocide" people accountable for not voting and allowing this to happen

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I love you continue to think that the non-voting group somehow caused this, pointing at people who were pissed at Kamala for for not actually speaking against Israel's genocide as if that actually played a major role in all of this. It didnt, the large majority of voters like Trump's messages of improving the economy and helping out the working class despite it being a huge lie.

What can people do outside of waiting on the courts? Protest, march like the anti-ICE shit, get out in number because it's far easier to vanish people one by one and easier for limp dick Dems to just tell us to smile and nod and deal with it until we get to vote their pathetic asses back in until they see a city out on the streets and industry starting to suffer. The only way to drive the point home is to make profits drop for corps, not by pointing at Trump and going "But the cooooooourts ssaaaaaaaaaiiiiiidddd"

The leftists didn't cause this shit. This was a mix of a lot of shit but Biden played a huge role along with his advisors in thinking that him drooling in his cheerios every morning showed enough "oomph" to beat Trump in a debate. They let him go to the fucking debate...that tells you how incompetent they were. Kamala didn't help matters by going out on the trail close to the election with fucking Cheney's and Bill Clinton...