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  1. #1561
    I trusted Zet and this is what happened
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    If I don't like a regulation or agency decision, what's to stop me from starting a business specifically to challenge it and then forum shopping to get it struck down?

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    Nothing was stopping you from doing that a month ago. It's always been a thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaslo View Post
    Nothing was stopping you from doing that a month ago. It's always been a thing.
    No, Chevron deference was stopping me (the theoretical me with the time and money to do this). There was a chilling effect on spurious litigation to battle regulations based on the knowledge that a lengthy court battle against a government agency would result in just getting their decision upheld at every level or at least by SCOTUS barring some especially egregious overreach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    No, Chevron deference was stopping me (the theoretical me with the time and money to do this). There was a chilling effect on spurious litigation to battle regulations based on the knowledge that a lengthy court battle against a government agency would result in just getting their decision upheld at every level or at least by SCOTUS barring some especially egregious overreach.

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    Sure, Jan.

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    I get that you're happy you'll never have to worry about finding work again but the end of Chevron is an undeniable negative for the safety of millions of people who won't often have time to wait for the years this is going to add to any meaningful action taking place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    I get that you're happy you'll never have to worry about finding work again but the end of Chevron is an undeniable negative for the safety of millions of people who won't often have time to wait for the years this is going to add to any meaningful action taking place.

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    There isn't an automatic stay on administrative appeals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaslo View Post
    There isn't an automatic stay on administrative appeals.
    A stay in this environment is as hard to get as a grand jury indictment.

    I still think it's hilarious to even pretend the US has the judicial infrastructure that John Roberts seems to be under the impression it has. I think they pretty much sent every case away this term. Tanya Chutkin got royally fucked. She either did a ton of work for absolutely fucking nothing or she's about to do a ton of work for absolutely nothing and the case will be right back at Roberts doorstep.

    Fucking joke.

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    So when is Biden going to order Seal Team 6 to take out the Supreme Court?

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    Yeah sounds like a great time to create a few vacancies, if one were so inclined and in a position to have complete immunity for it

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    Oh you don't say, well it's a good thing nothing has happened recently that might embolden judges to issue them.

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    Today is one for the books. The beginning of the end of democracy in America.

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    IT'S A GOOD THING WE DIDN'T GET HILLARY IN OFFICE

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    I would think Berniebros are frothing at the mouth at everything happening, but lack the cognitive thought process that this is all pretty much their fault.

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    Don’t vote guys. That’ll really send a message to the Democratic Party.

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    The beautiful thing about our small corner of the internet, is that these regards will legit argue up and down. But we can all easily just search those old threads and see who said what.

    Keep that same energy.

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    most of the people in my circles who preferred Bernie still voted to try to prevent Trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qalbert View Post
    most of the people in my circles who preferred Bernie still voted to try to prevent Trump
    Bernie primary voters voted for Hillary at very high rates, far, far higher than Hillary voters voted for Obama in '08

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qalbert View Post
    most of the people in my circles who preferred Bernie still voted to try to prevent Trump
    This, but nonetheless, some fuckers think the stick approach is better than carrot for courting the left. Keep making enemies out of allies, yo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qalbert View Post
    most of the people in my circles who preferred Bernie still voted to try to prevent Trump
    This was me. I am still a huge Bernie fan and voted for him every chance I got. However I'd have been a fool to not vote hillary or biden, because...duh?

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    Fact of the matter is that both Hillary and Biden still got millions more votes than Trump and Biden barely won by 50k or some shit.

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    Swing states are the gifts that keep on giving.

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