SCOTUS Thread (News and Discussion) III: Abandoning 90 Years of Precedent

[Lyltia]

Nah, the courts will handle this don't worry. Everything will be fine

Is anyone not sick of this rote response yet? Who are you even dunking on anymore? The point has been made.

[Meresgi]

Is anyone not sick of this rote response yet? Who are you even dunking on anymore? The point has been made.

No and Kaslo

[Tyrath]

Evergreen response

[Kaslo]

The fact that me arguing that "Courts will enforce their orders, it will just take time to go through the process" became "let's make jokes about the Courts protecting us from anything" is still crazy.

[Tyrath]

The fact that your comments continually ignored all of the people who will be hurt in the meantime is part of why you are being mocked.

[kuronosan]

Is anyone not sick of this rote response yet? Who are you even dunking on anymore? The point has been made.

I'm more sick of the bullshit the GOP is doing than I am of that response, and I was the one who started it.

[Kaslo]

The fact that your comments continually ignored all of the people who will be hurt in the meantime is part of why you are being mocked.

That's still dumb because everyone else's comments were just getting outraged but also not really helping those same people either.

[Roranora]

yeah but it's more apparent we're mad that they're fucked. or something

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[Tyrath]

That's still dumb because everyone else's comments were just getting outraged but also not really helping those same people either.

Sorry our comments on a vidya forum don't magically fix things. Still fuck you for saying it's all fine, courts will handle it as if that will resolve everything and a whole bunch of people/things wont be hurt in the meantime.

[Lucavi]

Is anyone not sick of this rote response yet? Who are you even dunking on anymore? The point has been made.

Nope, and Kaslo. The only thing I'm sick of is our species inability to work together for good rather than worshiping at the altar of money and tribalism. Well, that and people like Kaslo being pissed at people on forums writing mean things about something stupid that they said rather than the administration that's legit tearing apart people's lives and destabilizing the planet for grifting profit and good ol' plain Stephen Miller hatred.

[Meresgi]

That's still dumb because everyone else's comments were just getting outraged but also not really helping those same people either.

You're right, no one should comment on anything at all unless their comment is directly made after fixing the issue they are commenting about. Especially on the internet, and especially on a vidya game forum from a game that is of drinking age now.

[Byrthnoth]

I think we've all made the point that the courts aren't going to enforce anything until they have an executive branch willing to listen to them or a legislative branch that isn't sycophantically devoted to the executive several times now. It is obvious at this point that the legal system, in additional to being impotent and unable to enforce its own rulings, is also too slow to respond at the pace necessary in 2025. Trump's people don't even need to defy court orders. They can just keep breaking the law in novel ways and the court is too slow to stop them.

[kuronosan]

I'm sorry I just can't take anyone seriously who tells me to trust the process when the process gave us Trump #2 and all this shit happening now. It's like saying trust the fire department when the house is burning down.

[Tyche]

He's breaking the law at a rate that simply isn't sustainable for the judiciary. And it's 100% on John Roberts for allowing it.

In the first 16 weeks of his presidency, Trump admin has filed as many emergency petitions to SCOTUS as Obama filed...and Bush filed...in 16 years...and multiplied by 2.

[Byrthnoth]

If we wanted to have a productive conversation, perhaps we could talk about how to fix the system?

Does it make sense to give the court actual enforcement responsibilities?
Obviously an age limit on justices would help the "they can't handle the pace" problem, but we probably need a mechanism that automatically expands the judiciary based on case load.

[Mrbeansman]

I love how neither me or Kalso said everything will be fine and nobody would be hurt but y'all still got so butthurt.

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[Kaslo]

Obviously an age limit on justices would help the "they can't handle the pace" problem.

Honestly I don't think it would. I think making it harder to get a stay from SCOTUS would. If people had to live with Circuit holdings until SCOTUS would hear it, we likely would get more capitulation or settlement.

[Byrthnoth]

That makes sense. I do also think that increasing the SC capacity could have an impact, though. What if there were fifty seats on the SC and they heard cases in random 7-justice panels?

Right now the SC decides fewer than 100 cases per year. I'm sure that they're making super well considered judgments (in the cases that don't make the news, I guess?) but it seems like laughable throughput through a very gameable system. If we were running 7 SCs and probably killing an appeals court tier, it would end up being harder to game and final decisions would be reached faster.

[Tyche]

In just the 2nd term, Trump has petitioned and got a ruling on FOURTEEN emergency petitions. He's won 10 of the 14, partially won 1, 1 was declared moot, and he's lost...2.

SCOTUS is granting his petitions at an unprecedented rate and handing him wins in 75% of those cases. It's fucking asinine.

He's brought more cases and had more cases heard in 5 months than Biden did in 4 years. And, like I said, twice as many as Bush and Obama had in 16 years.

It's time to accept the fact that the Supreme Court is compromised. Reading the opinions of Justice Brown continues to solidify that opinion fact.

[Meresgi]

In just the 2nd term, Trump has petitioned and got a ruling on FOURTEEN emergency petitions. He's won 10 of the 14, partially won 1, 1 was declared moot, and he's lost...2.

SCOTUS is granting his petitions at an unprecedented rate and handing him wins in 75% of those cases. It's fucking asinine.

He's brought more cases and had more cases heard in 5 months than Biden did in 4 years. And, like I said, twice as many as Bush and Obama had in 16 years.

It's time to accept the fact that the Supreme Court is compromised. Reading the opinions of Justice Brown continues to solidify that opinion fact.

This, talking about the courts working it out is what annoyed people because it meant jack shit. the SC is at his beck and call and sure they might strike down every 1 out of 10 things that come before him, them upholding the other 9 is crazy damaging . If it were harder to get this shit before them, yes it would be way better but we're just seeing a judge say "You can't do this" and everyone cheering and a day later it's "Nah let it ride for now and we'll let SC check it bro". The system fucking sucks ass and we saw this coming for years and years. The GoP have been putting their people in place and planning this out for decades now and the Dems didn't care because "status quo" would solve the day...then we saw Trump 2016 chuck all that shit out of the window and instead of coming in and trying to fix that shit they pussy footed around.