Spicy's plan for utopia

[Roranora]

also there could be rewards programs at the brothels, lemme get that free titfuck or birthday beej

[thetruepandagod]

also there could be rewards programs at the brothels, lemme get that free titfuck or birthday beej

i'm sure i could find one at a pink salon in japan

[Koyangi]

I haven't been able to afford health insurance since 2007, but go on and assume my circumstances.

Serious question, how are you not able to get/afford Medicaid, or ACA, or otherwise insurance on your own?

[synistar]

I don't think it's affordability. It's the access to health care providers that are willing to take the ACA insurance resulting in long drives or higher out-of-pocket costs associated with cheaper premiums/higher deductible plan.

[kuronosan]

Serious question, how are you not able to get/afford Medicaid, or ACA, or otherwise insurance on your own?

We have to be within the company's preferred network in order to make it affordable and we also might not accept their insurance, which makes having any of those a moot point.

[Mrbeansman]

Only way I can see is working part time in a state that hasn't expanded Medicare.

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[Koyangi]

*caid.

[Spicyryan]

We have to be within the company's preferred network in order to make it affordable and we also might not accept their insurance, which makes having any of those a moot point.

Shit, you can't be sure that even a small dental practice takes the same insurance, let alone healthcare. Often times one dentist takes X, Y, and Z and the dentist in the room next to them takes A, B, and X. If you don't know that, and aren't told then you get fucked just for trying to take care of yourself. Health Insurance needs to be 86ed completely.

My wife has had to check, call, and recheck that various parts of a basic procedure don't suddenly fall into some loophole of a lack of coverage. "Oh, sorry, we don't cover that specific lab" or one of any other various bullshit ptifalls. Want to hold your baby after it is born? Well, there is a fee for that if you agree to "skin to skin"! What is more malicious than that? It is incredibly stressful and time consuming just to even think about a doctor in the US.

After getting COVID recently I figured that I could get the pill and speed up getting back to work. Which shouldn't even be a thing in the first fucking place, but we live under capitalism. But, nope, I wasn't fat enough, old enough, smoker enough, etc and was charged beyond what my insurance would cover just for verbally answering what my weight was as one of a the various line items of "X service rendered" before being told to fuck off and go to the hospital if it gets worse. They didn't even weigh me, but since I said it-charged. If the for profit healthcare system isn't enough to start putting heads on spikes for then idk what is.

Only way I can see is working part time in a state that hasn't expanded Medicare.

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Since they said they are in a very red place. It is likely that is the case. However, you never see the Dems campaigning on those people left behind by the ACA. They wouldn't be worth it since you won't get the votes there. Instead the Dems just hold it over your head and string everyone along. There has been no significant change in the last 15 years on it, and none coming.

[Mrbeansman]

Since they said they are in a very red place. It is likely that is the case. However, you never see the Dems campaigning on those people left behind by the ACA. They wouldn't be worth it since you won't get the votes there. Instead the Dems just hold it over your head and string everyone along. There has been no significant change in the last 15 years on it, and none coming.

There's literally nothing dems can do about it if they can't win in those states. Honestly though we need to abolish the states at this point. Whatever purpose they once served is no longer relevant and they are the biggest contributer to our current system of minority rule.

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[archibaldcrane]

Since they said they are in a very red place. It is likely that is the case. However, you never see the Dems campaigning on those people left behind by the ACA. They wouldn't be worth it since you won't get the votes there. Instead the Dems just hold it over your head and string everyone along. There has been no significant change in the last 15 years on it, and none coming.

14 states have expanded Medicaid under the ACA in the past 8 years.

Michigan (4/1/2014), New Hampshire (8/15/2014), Pennsylvania (1/1/2015), Indiana (2/1/2015), Alaska (9/1/2015), Montana (1/1/2016), Louisiana (7/1/2016), Virginia (1/1/2019), Maine (1/10/2019 with coverage retroactive to 7/2/2018), Idaho (1/1/2020), Utah (1/1/2020), Nebraska (10/1/2020), Oklahoma (7/1/2021), and Missouri (Processing applications beginning 10/1/2021 with coverage retroactive to 7/1/2021).

[NynJa]

There's literally nothing dems can do about it if they can't win in those states. Honestly though we need to abolish the states at this point. Whatever purpose they once served is no longer relevant and they are the biggest contributer to our current system of minority rule.

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Sounds like people who live in these shitty ass areas should move and let the residents kill themselves off naturally.

[archibaldcrane]

Medicaid expansion under the ACA is also on the ballot this November in South Dakota.

Note that a bunch of these states didn't require Democrats to take control to expand Medicaid.

[Spicyryan]

There's literally nothing dems can do about it if they can't win in those states. Honestly though we need to abolish the states at this point. Whatever purpose they once served is no longer relevant and they are the biggest contributer to our current system of minority rule.

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Why is it that we need to vote for these helpless Dems again? Where was did some big push materialize in these last two years on the ACA while there was a chance? AFAIK, has only taken executive action to direct people to review it, advertise, enroll longer, or stem the bleeding, not improve it.

Lol, why would you want to abolish the states? They are a vital go-between from the federal government to the people in terms of planning and identifying areas to address. In either system a town need representatives for the state which then works with the central government. You are just rightfully upset that the conflict of interests generated under our economic system causes a stark conflict of interests where we lose out when push comes to shove.

14 states have expanded Medicaid under the ACA in the past 8 years.

I didn't mean that no state expanded Medicaid. There's been no forward movement on the ACA. Insurance companies that helped write it are sitting back taking their pay day. It's perhaps even less likely to change now outside of maybe minor improvements, but Biden campaigned against Medicare For All, and has not made progress on the ACA. It's one of the Dems greatest tools to campaign on, but it is a stopgap measure at best.

[Mrbeansman]

Except the states have too much power and control over too many people. Just look how Abbot and DeSantis have turned their states into their own feifdoms of fascism all while claiming that if you don't like it you can just leave just ignoring that a lot of people don't have the opportunity to leave.

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[Mrbeansman]

I know I sure loved when my governor stripped away my enhanced unemployment for the summer last year even though the federal government was paying for it.

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[kuronosan]

Nothing is more frustrating than arguing with an insurance company about what they should be paying for versus what they agree to.

Y'all should be taking your shit up with them.

[Uzor]

Difference between not wanting to work and wanting to have a balance of work. Valuing the later is not only health, but incompatible with the goals of capitalism. Workers became more aware to the excessive degree of exploitation they have lived under post COVID. You can tell this because of union drives and the mainstream media narratives on CNBC and other shit about "quiet quiting" or the fair social media response of "acting your wage."

As for Gred, I will respond sometime today. So no one starts whining that I am purposely avoiding that post or something.

That's not true at all. All European nations are capitalist nations. All of us value work-life balance. It's not at all incompatible with capitalism.

In Sweden, for example, we have a minimum of 5 weeks of paid vacation (6 if you're above 40), 480 days parental leave, 14 days of paid sick leave (unless OK'd by a doctor, then you have unlimited), just to name a few. There's no expectation of overtime for most companies, although there are a few exceptions, such as healthcare workers—especially during the pandemic.

In Europe (or the Scandinavian countries, at least) our mentality is "work to live", not "live to work" like you have in the U.S

In Sweden, we have a much more relaxed work environment, and most companies (unless they are foreign) don't really have a strict hierarchy. Calling someone "Sir" or calling them by their last name rather than first name is considered rude and obnoxious and is usually done sarcastically.

So don't feed me some bullshit line how capitalism is not compatible with a healthy work-life balance. It is. It's just your mentality being fucked up in the U.S. Quiet quitting is not a thing in Sweden or even most European countries. No one expects you to stay longer than you have to, everyone clocks out when they're done for the day.

Hell, a lot of companies gives out half-days or days off like they're Operah Winfrey. You're done with your tasks? Feel free to leave early, there's no point in staying just to clock your hours. Today is between a weekend and a holiday? No one wants to work then, here's a day off. Oh, Friday is a holiday? Take Monday off too and enjoy a long weekend. There's also a push to move to a 6-hour workday instead for even more work-life balance.

[archibaldcrane]

That's not true at all. All European nations are capitalist nations.

Pretty close to all at least

You could certainly make the argument that Norway is more socialist than capitalist (because the state owns the majority of the means of production)

https://www.peoplespolicyproject.org...n-home-wealth/

[Uzor]

Norway's an interesting case, due to their oil wealth. They're still a capitalist country though, but they diversify because they want something reliable for when the oil runs out. They've been very smart about their investments.

[Spicyryan]

Except the states have too much power and control over too many people. Just look how Abbot and DeSantis have turned their states into their own feifdoms of fascism all while claiming that if you don't like it you can just leave just ignoring that a lot of people don't have the opportunity to leave.

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Lol, they aren't a feifdom of fascism. You are way too reactive.

That's not true at all. All European nations are capitalist nations. All of us value work-life balance. It's not at all incompatible with capitalism.

In Sweden, for example, we have a minimum of 5 weeks of paid vacation (6 if you're above 40), 480 days parental leave, 14 days of paid sick leave (unless OK'd by a doctor, then you have unlimited), just to name a few. There's no expectation of overtime for most companies, although there are a few exceptions, such as healthcare workers—especially during the pandemic.

In Europe (or the Scandinavian countries, at least) our mentality is "work to live", not "live to work" like you have in the U.S

In Sweden, we have a much more relaxed work environment, and most companies (unless they are foreign) don't really have a strict hierarchy. Calling someone "Sir" or calling them by their last name rather than first name is considered rude and obnoxious and is usually done sarcastically.

So don't feed me some bullshit line how capitalism is not compatible with a healthy work-life balance. It is. It's just your mentality being fucked up in the U.S. Quiet quitting is not a thing in Sweden or even most European countries. No one expects you to stay longer than you have to, everyone clocks out when they're done for the day.

Hell, a lot of companies gives out half-days or days off like they're Operah Winfrey. You're done with your tasks? Feel free to leave early, there's no point in staying just to clock your hours. Today is between a weekend and a holiday? No one wants to work then, here's a day off. Oh, Friday is a holiday? Take Monday off too and enjoy a long weekend. There's also a push to move to a 6-hour workday instead for even more work-life balance.

Just because you have social programs doesn't mean capitalism is compatible with a work life balance. It inherently is not.
Your quality of life depends on exporting your exploitation. Where the abundances used to maintain your quality of life comes from aligning with imperialists forcibly taking it from the global south.
Even then, your working class is not liberated just because you simply get to go to the doctor without fear or spend over a year with a newborn or have some holidays and labor laws.

Pretty close to all at least

You could certainly make the argument that Norway is more socialist than capitalist (because the state owns the majority of the means of production)

https://www.peoplespolicyproject.org...n-home-wealth/

No, you could not make the argument because it is a capitalist country. A state is not socialist because it's monarchy "owns a majority of the means of production." Proletariat are to own the means of production and lead it. The western educational systems "socialism is when the government does stuff" are why basics like this aren't understood.

Norway is not "pretty close" to socialism.