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    FIFA World Cup - Qatar 2022: Dead Migrant Workers Edition

    what.
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    FIFA awarded and announced World Cups for Russia and Qatar on the same day some 12 years ago. And everyone said ok right, sure; so here we are.

    The hosts first said hey we'll play in air-conditioned stadiums, which turned into we'll play in air-conditioned stadiums in the Northern hemisphere winter in the middle of the club league season. Never before has a World Cup began fewer than 16 days after a European/UCL final. This time around, the first match will be less than a week after the last league fixtures before this break. It has already been an injury-laden start to the season with the condensed calendar. Now it's the stage every player dreams of reaching, so one might expect a few more injuries than the typical tournament as well.

    There's no Italy, no Chile, and no Peru *sheds tear*.

    All travelers do kindly avoid public drunkenness, public affection, and executions by the state.



    Who are the favorites?

    Brazil, Argentina, Germany. While not a guarantee, it's likely one of those these teams lifts the trophy Dec 18th.

    Who else is good?

    I like Uruguay, Belgium, Denmark, Spain, Portugal, and England. I'm sleeping on France and can't trust their midfield without Kante and Pogba.

    The next strongest sides might look like Netherlands, Serbia, Mexico, and Switzerland.

    What about the US?

    We decent. We can aspire to make it out of the group and maybe reach a quarterfinal.

    Long term we probably need more yanks and euros hooking up or american babies born abroad, making babies eligible for our team and also more likely to come through better youth development.

    Which group games be lookin' good?

    Ima watch Argentina-Mexico like i got skin in the game. Others sure to be interesting include Ghana-Uruguay and any Brazil game.

    others:
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    Friday 25 November
    England-USA (2pm EST)

    Saturday 26 November
    France-Denmark (11am EST)
    Argentina-Mexico (2pm EST)

    Sunday 27 November
    Spain-Germany (2pm EST)

    Monday 28 November
    Portugal-Uruguay (2pm EST)

    Tuesday 29 November
    Wales-England (2pm EST)

    Thursday 1 December
    Croatia-Belgium (10am EST)

    Friday 2 December
    Ghana-Uruguay (10am EST)


    Yo how do you watch this shit?

    I dunno. I just tried to once.




    Group A: Qatar, Ecuador, Senegal, Netherlands

    Group B: England, Iran, United States, Wales

    Group C: Argentina, Saudi Arabia, Mexico, Poland

    Group D: France, Australia, Denmark, Tunisia

    Group E: Spain, Costa Rica, Germany, Japan

    Group F: Belgium, Canada, Morocco, Croatia

    Group G: Brazil, Serbia, Switzerland, Cameroon

    Group H: Portugal, Ghana, Uruguay, South Korea

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    Predictions for later laughs!


    Group winners & runners-up
    Netherlands, Senegal
    England, US
    Argentina, Mexico
    Denmark, France
    Germany, Spain
    Croatia, Morocco
    Brazil, Switzerland
    Uruguay, Portugal


    Round of 16
    Netherlands-USA
    Argentina-France
    England-Senegal
    Denmark-Mexico
    Germany-Morocco
    Brazil-Portugal
    Croatia-Spain
    Uruguay-Switzerland


    Quarterfinals
    Netherlands-Argentina
    Germany-Brazil
    England-Denmark
    Spain-Uruguay


    Semifinals
    Argentina-Brazil
    Denmark-Uruguay


    Final
    Brazil-Uruguay

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    Honest question, not really knowing much about FIFA and football, how come the same teams always seem to be the favorites?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emphasis View Post
    Honest question, not really knowing much about FIFA and football, how come the same teams always seem to be the favorites?
    Hmm.

    At this level, it really requires a degree of skill, technique, and fitness that many nations can't reach. Youth development is huge. Creativity is also an area the great teams showcase in abundance and the almost-good teams lack -- that is, they fail to create enough good chances in attack. The best teams have long been the European and South American sides, and that hasn't really changed much over the years and decades. A few more Euro nations are now also pretty good. All of South America fields strong sides, and inevitably a good team or two doesn't qualify out of their region.

    In short, the best teams (and players) keep playing each other during the club season and the continental tournaments & qualifying, which keeps their level at or near the highest level. The comparably modest teams (and players) in North America, Africa, Asia, etc. keep playing each other during the club season and continental tournaments, which keeps their level discernibly lower. The more American players we have who make it into club sides in Europe, the more they can raise our level at USMNT camps and in turn help improve the level of play in MLS and Liga MX, etc.

    However, do kindly note it is a very low scoring sport, and as such it has a large number of upsets.

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    air-conditioned stadiums
    Except for Stadium 974 - a temporary stadium made of 974 shipping containers and doesn't have A/C. I have a feeling all games played there will have 10pm local start times,

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    the opening ceremony just concluded and was rather extravagant, complete with Korean pop stars and Morgan Freeman. is this place filthy rich or what

    just Qatar-Ecuador for today until we start getting 3-4 matches a day

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    Sorry for the newb question, but why is the World Cup in November and not the summer?

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    you try playing soccer in qatar in the summer

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    No, thanks.

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    England did some good work today. Bellingham is their most important player already, and he's all of 19 years old. And I know he hasn't trained yet at the WC, but I have a hunch Maddison will prove crucial later against tougher competition. Here's to hoping Southgate gives him a chance.

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    So many people are sleeping on Ecuador in Group A. I like Senegal and the Netherlands too, but if La Tri make it to the knockout rounds, I reckon they could give England a tough match, despite Qatar being a poor barometer for opposition strength.


    USA-Wales today at 2pm ET. If we lose this match, it will be a long way back. A draw wouldn't be a bad result.

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    So many empty seats. Turns out that holding this in an oppressive 3rd world country probably isn't a good idea.

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    Qatar attempting to sportswash with the World Cup and so far failing miserably is an entertaining exercise.

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    If there wasn't a risk of spending a quarter century doing slave labor, one could literally walk down to the front row on midfield and watch the game.

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    reffing has not been great so far

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mertron View Post
    reffing has not been great so far
    lol nvm

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    qatar commercial: come visit qatar! new stadium! Microsoft campus! northwestern and other schools have campuses here! afghan refugee center! visit qatar!

    me: wait what was that last place?

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