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    Quote Originally Posted by Cail View Post
    depending on circumstances, but we can call codes after 20mins of acls in the field (this would not be one of those times, but we wouldnt be sitting on scene that long either)
    For some fucking reason we'll sit for an hour, especially if we have a mobile doc which they would have.

    They don't wanna do a TRE in the ambulance they'd rather leave grandma in the living room.

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    game officially suspended tonight

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    Game officially suspended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    Yeah, I haven't watched any of it, just going off the Twitter posts that have been linked here. I thought they started CPR on the field and I assumed they bagged him until the ambulance got there.

    I mean, there's multiple MDs on that field at any given time, I assume. Neurotrauma docs at least. Someone knew what they were doing, but no fucking clue what equipment they have on the sidelines.
    I would expect a full ALS code setup. Lifepack/zoll, mag epi atropine cardizem etc.

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    But probably not, probably EMTs on standby and not ALS.

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    to be fair, that's just the standard operating procedure

    mcdermitt taking charge and doing what's best for his players is honestly the only person who could have had the most up-to-date knowledge of his own team to change that protocol

    the nfl didn't do anything wrong here. they literally just followed the coaches lead, who should be leading at that moment

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    Also the fact the NFL tried to say, take 5 then back to work is disgusting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyiee View Post
    I would expect a full ALS code setup. Lifepack/zoll, mag epi atropine cardizem etc.
    in our area, HS games and stuff are BLS. College sporting events are all ALS. I think none of them can even play if an ambulance isnt on scene

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cail View Post
    in our area, HS games and stuff are BLS. College sporting events are all ALS. I think none of them can even play if an ambulance isnt on scene
    Yeah they even pay an ALS unit to stand by at the state police academy during PT. I've done mass casualty stuff at giants/jets games before but we're just there with an MCRU for logistics and supplies and watch the game we don't really interact with the crews working or know what's on premisis.

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    No press conferences from either team tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cail View Post
    I think none of them can even play if an ambulance isnt on scene
    any event space that holds an indoor capacity of 5000 or more requires a minimum of one ambulance on site for any public event. concert, sporting event, whatever.

    it can be in chilling in the loading dock, but it needs to be on the premise

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    Well if you want to donate to Hamlin's toy drive that was at $4000 pregame and is already up over $600k here's a link to a link:

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    One of the eeriest things I’ve witnessed.

    You could quickly see the panic from medical staff to signal for stretcher/ambulance.

    Then the long delay with no information other than Twitter rumors of CPR, etc. Seeing Bills players throw their arms up while he was still being worked on made my stomach drop.

    At one point a single emergency tone siren played in the stadium while he was still on the ground.

    Very somber atmosphere leaving stadium

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    I'm guessing they saw he was unresponsive and pulseless. As training staff, I can't imagine the panic that sets in. 24 years old, tens of millions of eyes on you, there's no amount of age and experience that would prepare you for that.

    I know, shit timing, etc, but I have Bengals wildcard round tickets I want to sale Heady. Section 139 (40 yd line). I have 2 tix on row 4 and 2 tix on row 8.

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    It was already shaping up to be such a great game. I don't know how they even manage to play each other before the playoffs without knowing he's okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cail View Post
    This doesn't mean a whole lot. A normal BP and HR after a code is good news, but a normal BP and HR while maxed on Levo, epi, dopamine, etc ain't great. Without a very detailed report (which you aren't gonna get tonight), there isn't a whole lot I would expect to understand tonight. Even at the bedside, it's probably too early to know anything. Best to put the phone down for the night and wait til tomorrow at the absolute earliest.

    Even then, if he's initiating spontaneous breaths and vitals are normal with minimal to no med control, it's going to be hard to see what his mental state will be after being anoxic for that long until he's off the sedation. It'll be days at the earliest before you even begin to make out the big picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuronosan View Post
    It was already shaping up to be such a great game. I don't know how they even manage to play each other before the playoffs without knowing he's okay.
    i would assume they'll play wednesday/thursday, unless the players themselves want to make a united stand to stop football for longer than that

    regardless of it being good or bad news, we will have news of his condition tomorrow

    guys can process events well enough that they aren't going to endanger themselves or others by then

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