I guess I wasn't very specific, but I meant dying by overdose. I've seen people have a bad time on K, but it only lasts like 20-30 minutes, so it's not like a bad trip.
You can absolutely die from ketamine overdose.
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If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ketamine overdose.
how fast is this wrench being thrown
Is it a metric or imperial wrench?
I don't think it is, Kuro just keeps randomly interjecting that factoid.
Deaths from it are pretty fucking rare, but honestly, I just don't understand how you would be in the shape to keep doing more after a certain point. The amount it takes to completely put you on your ass is definitely not a lethal dose. Even if you're doing muscle shots, seems likely that at some point you're going to be sitting there drooling on yourself and mumbling with the needle laying on the floor.
There is that trial going on with the EMS OD'ing a suspect - https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/new...eath-colorado/
So yea you can die from it.
Watching old people trip on ketamine during student rotations was amazing. So many varied experiences.
Also, we prescribe that shit, I think we are well aware of dosing lol.
Also, you can hook up a slow and steady drip and fuck yourself over long after you've been KOd.
Yeah, it is used for animal anesthesia, including horses. Horses can either be laid down (full anesthesia, very risky) or have surgeries standing (partial anesthesia, less risky unless they spook) and iirc either way you are giving them a systemic mix including ketamine.
I mean, you said like three times "wow I've never heard of that happening and I did it a bunch" with variations going to "okay but like I meant it leaves your system in 20-30 minutes" to now "I think he just keeps inserting that fact".
I'm responding with that fact because you continue to throw it out there that ketamine deaths are rare. I mean, I read that story too and read the study it quotes, and it's actually quite common when not medically supervised - especially with other drugs involved. Did you know it's also hard to overdose and die on ibuprofen, Tylenol, Benzos, and even antidepressants, yet people can and do find a way.
The LD50 of ketamine maths out to about 12mg/kg in most adults, so while using sprays (84mg total) will make you trip and won't kill you, compounded sprays and uncontrolled injections can with as little as 800mg. Sure, most people trip at about 100mg, but some people can and will go further if they think it's not working as well as it used to or they want a bigger high. That's how dependence and addiction work.
Ketamine is also higher on the DEA schedule than Benzos, specifically because it has higher abuse potential and risk of actual dangerous effects. Now, granted, the highest schedule is most of the recreational drugs but only because they currently have no "medically acceptable use". That'll change eventually as it's being studied, but even then other than marijuana schedule I drugs can and will kill you in overdose.
Tl;dr: If you didn't keep talking about how rare and non lethal ketamine overdose is I wouldn't keep reminding you it's 1) not that rare and 2) is actually quite lethal, even in a controlled environment.
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I know there are a lot of weird misconceptions about recreational drug users, but most of them aren't exactly hooking up an IV for a little bit of party time.
You have a really fucking weird idea of what "quite common" means.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK541087/Because ketamine overdose is a relatively uncommon condition and co-ingestions often complicate severe cases, limited information is available with regards to survival rates. Cases of addiction to ketamine are relatively infrequent, and there are scant statistics on relapse rates and prognosis. Nonetheless, ketamine remains one of the few psychoactive drugs with serious complication rates of less than 1%.[23][24]
The risk of death from accidents when intoxicated with ketamine is associated with the highest mortality rate, according to several studies.[24][25] In a longitudinal study, two ketamine users died within one year, one from drowning in a bath and the second from hypothermia.[25]
Yeah I was going to say pretending like people ODing and dying from ketamine is common is asinine. That's like saying there's an epidemic of cannaboid hyperemesis that people were dying from after smoking too much weed.
Now I wanna go do a bunch of couch ketamine and eat lights