2023 NFL Off-Season Thread: i didnt see a week 1 thread so,

[Weltall]

You're stupid AF if any part of you thinks Lamar > Watson lmao. Watson was fucking incredible.

One was on the Texans and one was on the Ravens. One of the worst front offices/franchises vs. the best. That makes a massive amount of difference in win/loss record.

That 4-12 year he was playing with worse talent than Lamar ever has, and still was a hell of a lot better. Hell, he almost threw for 5,000 yards. Lamar has barely cracked 3k.

[Weltall]

I was also correct about Baltimore being a smart franchise, many times on here. They know what he is and is worth/isn't worth.

[Rhyis.]

i'm just telling what has happened in real life. you can think whoever is talented, i don't care.
but lamar has 100% been more successful than deshaun in the nfl as of this moment. it's just a fact

[Xno Kappa]

https://twitter.com/GrahamGano/statu...304256000?s=20

[Rhyis.]

kickers

[Weltall]

i'm just telling what has happened in real life. you can think whoever is talented, i don't care.
but lamar has 100% been more successful than deshaun in the nfl as of this moment. it's just a fact

You just stay being wrong lmao

[Weltall]

If Lamar was so good, teams would be JUMPING on a 26 year old QB. Nothing but reports that teams aren't interested.

Still think Falcons might make a move, regardless of what their side is currently putting out. The Ravens are loving every second of this though.

[Xno Kappa]

Dolphins couldn't pursue a deal for Jackson even if they wanted to. They don't have the picks compensation. Any team without a 2023 and 2024 1st can't do a deal.

https://twitter.com/JaimeEisner/stat...082921984?s=20

[Weltall]

Like clockwork, the racist narrative from other players is in. Completely ignore the fact that the Ravens don’t want to tie up a huge % of cap on a QB who relies on his legs and has missed the last 2 season with leg injuries, it’s simply racism at play!!

People like this are an embarrassment:

https://twitter.com/dezbryant/status...ScNj4cKg3IEI_w

[Weltall]

Jets ownership are flying out to meet with Aaron Rodgers this morning.

[kuronosan]

Jets. Flying. Haha.

[Mertron]

sounds like the eagles are about to sign brandon graham for 2 years 12 mil

pretty good tbh if it goes through. he definitely would have got more on the open market so he took the discount to stay here and (hopefully) win

also, it’s rumored lane johnson and darius slay are going to rework their contracts to free up money as well. bring back cjgj and hargraves plz (i think cjgj is gone tho)

[Weltall]

https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/s...164104706?s=20

[Tyche]

Like clockwork, the racist narrative from other players is in. Completely ignore the fact that the Ravens don’t want to tie up a huge % of cap on a QB who relies on his legs and has missed the last 2 season with leg injuries, it’s simply racism at play!!

People like this are an embarrassment:

https://twitter.com/dezbryant/status...ScNj4cKg3IEI_w

I don't think it's racism, but I 100% believe that owners are colluding to not continue the precedent set by the Browns with the Watson deal. It'll be impossible to prove.

[Rhyis.]

Yeah they would have vote in person on what the capped guarantee number is moving forward during the last owners meeting. There will be no digital trail.

And the owners are taking a hard stance on this stuff because of how guaranteed money works in the CBA. 100% of the guarantee money needs to hit an escrow account immediately upon signing. So in Deshaun's case the Browns had to move 230m the second he signed. For the owners that have the NFL as their only source of income 250m is a lot of cash to have on hand, and that's like 1/3rd of the league.

The only way Lamar is getting a fully guaranteed deal is if he gets a 3 year contract, 'cause that will come out to 150m guaranteed which is within the threshold.

[Mertron]

i still say lamar quit on the team last year and that factors into this also

[Rhyis.]

i think if he wanted 5 years 250m with 170m guaranteed he'd already be signed

russ is out here sucking balls at 245/165 at the age of 34
kyler is a full-time call of duty player at 230/160

250/170 is the next qb contract

[Weltall]

And the owners are taking a hard stance on this stuff because of how guaranteed money works in the CBA. 100% of the guarantee money needs to hit an escrow account immediately upon signing. So in Deshaun's case the Browns had to move 230m the second he signed. For the owners that have the NFL as their only source of income 250m is a lot of cash to have on hand, and that's like 1/3rd of the league.

The only way Lamar is getting a fully guaranteed deal is if he gets a 3 year contract, 'cause that will come out to 150m guaranteed which is within the threshold.

I agree with both of these things. Some points that I think are all true:

1. The massive guaranteed QB contracts are bad for the league and the owners know it. If the cost continues to accelerate, some teams will be priced out of competition.
2. The NFL's parity is what makes it so, so great compared to other major sports leagues. It is in the owners and fans' best interest to put a halt to the cost spikes.
3. How much it is "100% behind-the-scenes collusion" will come to light when Burrow/Herbert get signed. If any upcoming QB contracts are worth it, it is at least Burrow. Those guys are 100x the QB Lamar Jackson is.
4. Lamar Jackson is inaccurate, bad at reading Ds, focuses on a single target until he scrambles, is injury prone, and not worth close to the contract he wants.
5. The Ravens are a smart org and understand this. They probably will end up signing him, but they played their hand very well and the open market, collusion or not, will now determine his contract.
6. The next CBA negations will implement a max salary for QBs. It should most likely be based on a % of the salary cap. This will be incredibly easy to pass. The players will vote for it because it means there will be more money for 99% of the players, and not just the QB position. Unfortunately it is far off, but hopefully the owners ARE colluding to soft cap this for now.
7. Lamar Jackson quit on his team.

[Xno Kappa]

https://twitter.com/bigblueunited/st...lYjetvB0QuNyGA

[Rhyis.]

The next CBA negations will implement a max salary for QBs. It should most likely be based on a % of the salary cap. This will be incredibly easy to pass. The players will vote for it because it means there will be more money for 99% of the players, and not just the QB position. Unfortunately it is far off, but hopefully the owners ARE colluding to soft cap this for now.

i think i remember % of cap being proposed in the last negotiation but it was shot down by the nflpa ironically. they are such a short sighted union lol