Wuthering Waves (PC/PS5/XSX/Android/iOS) - What If Genshin Impact Was Set in Death Stranding

[Gokulo]

She's still perfectly viable to do most of the stuff though with a free Spectro Rover. It would be one thing if she was weak as a base, but she's not. Just Phoebe boosts her to top tier. I think we often get too focused on best comps etc in these games, when they're only needed to clear the hardest stuff. And if you can't, then what? All you lose is a portion of rewards from that specific endgame content, not like you won't be able to continue playing the game.

[Ayn]

I'm more annoyed the rerun banner isn't 100%.

Naturally I lost my 50/50 (was going for Zhezhi) to Calculator.

[Karbuncle]

She's still perfectly viable to do most of the stuff though with a free Spectro Rover. It would be one thing if she was weak as a base, but she's not. Just Phoebe boosts her to top tier. I think we often get too focused on best comps etc in these games, when they're only needed to clear the hardest stuff. And if you can't, then what? All you lose is a portion of rewards from that specific endgame content, not like you won't be able to continue playing the game.

Most mobile games like to dip their toes in the water before diving headfirst. I’m very much annoyed at Zani herself because I’m sorry no matter how it’s frames she’s /significantly/ weaker without her designated partner (the only reason Rover comes close in a DPS race is because Rover himself provides more damage, and thus on average they kind of level out).

But in the end, I fear this is just what’s more to come. I don’t want to have to pull for an otherwise mediocre support unit on the off chance they’re absolutely required to make a favorite character of mine viable. Like imagine looking forward to a new character only to find out they’re just middle of the pack mediocre unless you pulled this crappy 5* and their weapon 3 banners ago while you were saving.

I mean most people don’t have to imagine lol, that’s arguably how some people feel about Zani right now. Not to mention there will continue to be power creep and this concept will likely get worse, my sources are *gestures at mobile game market*.

So while I’m upset at Zani, I’m more upset about the prescedent being set… Mobile games like to use these monetization tricks to sell otherwise underwhelming or just unpopular units.

Edit: and I want to put out we’re just talking about full strength Zani as S:0. Very few people complai about the power difference between S0 and S6 units, this situation reminds me too much of Zhang Li or whatever that Genshin unit was. The one who literally did not do his one job until his 3rd dupe or something? It’s not that egregious, but it’s worrisome.

I’d argue there’s a fine difference between the obvious whale bait of S6 dupes, and “hope you pulled this underwhelming support hero you had no idea would be required to make this unit shine”. It’s not even like we knew Zani would be light unit or rely on frazzle. It came completely out of nowhere and if you didn’t like Phoebe and pull for her then RIP.

It creates this worry or FOMO that if a mediocre unit comes out and they have some debuff, you now have to sit and hope the unit you’re waiting for isn’t reliant on this debuff for a unit you skipped because you didn’t like or they weren’t good. It’s just a bad situation. Hell the only reason people can get phoebe right now is the anniversary rerun, otherwise they’d just be effed.

I'm more annoyed the rerun banner isn't 100%.

Naturally I lost my 50/50 (was going for Zhezhi) to Calculator.

You and everyone else… such a GD shame what Wuwa is doing here :/

[Gokulo]

Zhongli? I wasn't there when he released but I think he was one of the rare cases when a character was buffed after release due to controversy

Anyway, it's gacha, it will always disappoint you sooner or later

[Obsidian]

I think the awkward thing about Zani is that if you don't have Phoebe, you're basically just better off pulling Phoebe and using Phoebe + Spectro Rover in the first place. The gap between her and Zani isn't wide to begin with. If she's barely better with Phoebe than Phoebe is without her, what's the point of Zani? It's just kind of a gross thing to do. We're also 4 patches in to 2.0 and they have yet to release a 4*, and there are no 4* alternatives for negative status effects currently.

And I think the reason people are mad about it is that Kuro has (somehow, I don't really get it personally) built themselves a reputation as being a player-friendly Gacha developer, and doing something like this, combined with the pretty underwhelming Anniversary, is starting to dull their shine with people.

[Karbuncle]

I want my gacha to disappoint me later not sooner!

But yes Zhong Li was eventually buffed, long after I quit Genshin lol.

[6souls]

Started playing this over the weekend. What is up with the time skip in the missions? The library mission said the deity had been captured and two missions later where you're taken to the front lines, the magistrate says she's had recent conversations with said deity. Did I miss a story beat somewhere?

[Karbuncle]

TBH Its a blur, but I do remember 1.0's story (Which lasts up until you fight the boss at the end of the frontline) is pretty fucking bad. Once you hit The Dragon-Shaped Mountain and Black Shores, it gets a bit better and more consistent.

[6souls]

I'm on the island now and the deity is back to being captured.

[Obsidian]

Some of those missions are flashbacks I think, but the entire 1.0 storyline is pretty poorly delivered.

[6souls]

With ZZZ under maintenance, logged in to see what I've missed lately. Managed to pull Carlotta within 20 pulls. Now to build around her.

[Ayn]

Congrats man! I snagged her and the weapon myself earlier this patch. Very happy with her.

[Obsidian]

She's quite fun, I didn't think they could make a Pistol user that I didn't hate playing. They teased another one for Septimont and I'm skeptical they can repeat that success but we'll have to see.

[Obsidian]

Good luck to anyone going for Cartethyia!

I started with about 50 radiant tide and 40k astrite, and 17 Forging Tide I think. I lost my 50/50 at hard pity to Verina (S2) and then had to go to hard pity for my guarantee and also for her weapon. I have about 16k Astrite left now so I'll have to think a bit harder about whether I want Lupa or not.

[RalphTheDwarf]

Yeah I'm broke now, but at least I didn't lose the 50/50. Almost makes up for getting Geparded in HSR. This game continues to have some of the best exploration for a gacha game (although being in space in ToF ain't bad either).

[Gokulo]

I really need to do more exploration in this game, because I'm always so starving for currency. Thankfully I won 50/50, but used up the rest of my funds and haven't got the weapon yet. Will probably be able to snatch it up before the banner ends, but with no savings and some of the upcoming characters they've shown are so cool, ughh

[Obsidian]

I think I'm like 40% explored in the 1.0 map and like 20% max in the 2.0 map so far, not including Septimont. I've just been so lazy. I should get started though, and in Genshin too where I have basically half of Fontaine at 0% and none of Natlan over 10%.

[RalphTheDwarf]

1.0 areas are kind of a pain to explore, things get a lot better in the 2.0 areas with the flight ability and things feeling more clustered together instead of just random crap everywhere. Heck, I even finished exploring the last update before most of the interactive maps were updated. Genshin still feels like a cliff climbing simulator, every dang time I feel like I'm on the wrong side of a mountain for something.

[Obsidian]

I don't find the exploration in Fontaine or Natlan all that bad honestly. In Fontaine half of it is swimming which is fine, in Natlan I have enough of the new characters with exploration abilities and between them and the saurians it actually makes things a lot less painful.

The 1.0 areas in Wuwa do suck though. At least they updated the treasure gadget to be more specific.

Also fuck both of Cartethyia's 4 costs belonging to two different sets. It makes farming for her such a pain in the ass. 4 costs that are multi-set eligible should just qualify for both sets instead of dropping individually.

[Karbuncle]

Think i 100%'d both the original and 2.0 area before the first major 2.0 update to add fishing, just because it was something to do. The only really shitty place is Desorock Highland or whatever its called. That place is pure ass, but a small hint is to just go to all the little mini-game chests (Shooting things, flying through rings, etc), those were the ones I was missing the most of as those chests dont show up on scanner.

Also fuck both of Cartethyia's 4 costs belonging to two different sets. It makes farming for her such a pain in the ass. 4 costs that are multi-set eligible should just qualify for both sets instead of dropping individually.

Havent started farming for her but heard similar things. More should do it like Hecate