2023 NFL Week 15 Thread: Quit Gettin’ Mad at Football Games

[Krandor]

But his agent looks so trustworthy in his pinstripe suit.

Meanwhile DeVito confirming he tests positive for marinara sauce.

[Mertron]

look it’s the right move by his agent, two years from now when tommy cutlets is literally making cutlets behind that same counter the extra 10k would’ve been nice

unless danny dimes gets hired as a bus boy and gives him a loan

[Weltall]

His agent loves it

https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/...633397400?s=20

[Melena]

Amusing that comes up as on r/nfl there was a thread about QB's lead blocking, and someone posted the video of Andrew Luck when he was at Stanford flat out sending someone to the shadow realm for recovering a fumble.

[Xno Kappa]

look it’s the right move by his agent, two years from now when tommy cutlets is literally making cutlets behind that same counter the extra 10k would’ve been nice

[Weltall]

Fuck man, now I want pizza

[Tyche]

I guess the NFL wanted to give Kyle Juszczyk and Alec Ingold a yearly award.

https://twitter.com/ASchatzNFL/statu...131261675?s=20

[Mertron]

we need every advantage we can get in the segregation game

[Krandor]

Can we retroactively give Juice 7 1st team All Pros?

Actually Ricard would maybe take one or two from him

[Weltall]

Lmaoooo

https://twitter.com/profootballtalk/...ScNj4cKg3IEI_w

[Xno Kappa]

Lmaoooo

https://twitter.com/profootballtalk/...ScNj4cKg3IEI_w

https://twitter.com/wessteinberg/sta...4cFnT_86rk5g5Q

[Outlaw]

I guess I can understand that.

Why you gotta fire your loveable goofy, stereotype agent though? Comemaaaaan?!!

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[archibaldcrane]

I guess I can understand that.

Why you gotta fire your loveable goofy, stereotype agent though? Comemaaaaan?!!

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He didn't fire him, just got a marketing agent as well, taking that off his sports agent's plate.

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[Mertron]

I guess I can understand that.

Why you gotta fire your loveable goofy, stereotype agent though? Comemaaaaan?!!

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heh

[archibaldcrane]

Yahoo sports had an interesting article redrafting the QBs of the past 5 years. Thought it was an interesting exercise.

1. Joe Burrow (Originally selected Round 1, Pick 1, 2020): The best quarterback of the last five years … for now. Already taken his team to the Super Bowl. Injuries are a concern, but when he’s on the field, he’s as good as it gets.

2. Brock Purdy (Round 7, Pick 262, 2022): Mr. Irrelevant has blossomed into Mr. Franchise for the 49ers. An MVP candidate and an inspiration to journeyman QBs everywhere, he goes from the back of the draft to the very front.

3. Jalen Hurts (Round 2, Pick 53, 2020): Regressed a bit from his MVP-level play of 2022, but remains one of the league’s key dual-threat quarterbacks.

4. Tua Tagovailoa (Round 1, Pick 5, 2020): The most up-and-down QB of this top tier; Mike McDaniel seems to have unlocked something in Tagovailoa, but could anyone else?

5. Trevor Lawrence (Round 1, Pick 1, 2021): His toughness isn’t a question, nor is his ability to rally a team. But is his inconsistency against better teams a knock on him, or the Jaguars franchise as a whole?

6. Justin Herbert (Round 1, Pick 6, 2020): Could move well up this list with a new coaching staff starting in 2024. Flashes of excellence dragged down by the pervasive Chargering all around him.

7. C.J. Stroud (Round 1, Pick 2, 2023): Shows every indication that he’ll be an elite-level talent for years to come, but it’s still early.

8. Kyler Murray (Round 1, Pick 1, 2019): Concerns about his size and durability have proven correct, but he still possesses the ability to perplex and torment a defense. May not be the solution, but he’s the kind of QB who will do until the solution comes along.

9. Anthony Richardson (Round 1, Pick 4, 2023): Still in the “potential” phase of his NFL career. If he develops on the trajectory of earlier this season — and if he stays healthy, no certain thing — he could move up this list with a quickness.

10. Justin Fields (Round 1, Pick 11, 2021): Worlds of talent, especially speed, in a system that doesn’t capitalize on his strengths but magnifies his weaknesses. Question is whether he’s already hit his ceiling, or whether there’s room to grow ahead.

11. Bryce Young (Round 1, Pick 1, 2023): It’s clear now that Stroud was a better fit for the NFL game from the jump than Young was, but Young is also saddled with a miserable organization. His game-winning drive last week against Atlanta showed he’s got the skills and the touch to succeed in the NFL; the question is, how often can he pull off brilliance like that?

12. Jordan Love (Round 1, Pick 26, 2020): It’s clear he’s not the next link in the Favre-Rodgers chain of Packer Immortality. But he’s shown bursts of brilliance in his first real run as a starting QB. More data needed, but this feels like a reasonable spot for Love.

13. Sam Howell (Round 5, Pick 144, 2022): Flourished as one of the few stars on an otherwise barren Commanders squad. Will be fascinating to watch if he’s able to get some better talent and coaching around him.

14. Daniel Jones (Round 1, Pick 6, 2019): Overvalued from the moment of his selection, he managed to turn reliability into a hefty extension. But have we already seen the extent of his skills?

15. Will Levis (Round 2, Pick 33, 2023): Underwhelming preseason, impressive in-season work. Will require a reassessment once NFL defensive coordinators figure out counterpunches for him, but at the moment he appears to be a reasonable starter-level QB in the 32-team NFL.

16. Gardner Minshew (Round 6, Pick 178, 2019): Leaning into his hired-gun status, Minshew is on his third team in five years, yet still has Indianapolis in position for a playoff berth. Might not win you a Super Bowl, but will keep you in games, and at this point that’s all you can ask.

17. Kenny Pickett (Round 1, Pick 20, 2022): A great story — local college hero stays home and joins the local pro team — hasn’t quite turned out to be a great performance. Pickett has pinballed between brilliance and injury in his young career, and we’re still not sure if he’s a good quarterback with bad stretches or a bad quarterback with occasional high points.

18. Aidan O’Connell (Round 4, Pick 135, 2023): Took over the Raiders when Jimmy Garoppolo went down with an injury, then managed to play his way into the job for the rest of the year. Threw for four touchdowns in the 63-21 beatdown of the Chargers last week, which ain’t bad for a rookie.

19. Mac Jones (Round 1, Pick 15, 2021): Like Love, had an impossible task in replacing a legend. Like Love, failed to do so. Unlike Love, failed to even hang on to his starting job.

20. Desmond Ridder (Round 3, Pick 74, 2022): The anti-Minshew. Given the keys to the Falcons franchise, and promptly drove it into a ditch. Ridder’s mistakes are directly responsible for several of the Falcons’ losses this season, and he’s been benched twice this season as a result.

21. Zach Wilson (Round 1, Pick 2, 2021): A tremendous disappointment given his high draft position. The floor was the ceiling, as it turned out, and even the tutelage of Aaron Rodgers hasn’t helped this year.

22. Bailey Zappe (Round 4, Pick 137, 2022): Pressed into service for New England when Jones faltered. Didn’t fare any better.

23. Jake Browning (Undrafted, 2019): Getting one hell of a tryout right now with Cincinnati in relief of the out-for-the-year Burrow. Could be setting himself up for a strong second act with another team, especially if he leads Cincinnati to the playoffs. Long way to go before we’re there, though.

24. Trey Lance (Round 1, Pick 3, 2021): Quite possibly the worst quarterback pick of the last five years, given how much San Francisco gave up to acquire him; Brock Purdy saved the 49ers from years’ worth of scorn. Lance never really got a chance — he might be brilliant, for all we know, but he’s languishing deep on Dallas’ bench.

25. Tommy DeVito (Undrafted, 2023): Better known for his Italian heritage and nickname than his on-field play, Tommy Cutlets is learning fast and managing to lead a woeful Giants team to some unexpected victories. His story will make a good Netflix movie, if not necessarily a playoff run.

Richardson, Fields and Lawrence feel too high, Browning feels far too low.

[Tyche]

I'd reverse 5, 6, and 7 (or trade 5 and 7 if you will). Howell I feel should be higher. Guy needs a line. Other than that, I don't have strong feelings or don't think enough time has passed to properly evaluate.

[Tyche]

https://twitter.com/CameronWolfe/sta...115307989?s=20

[Rhyis.]

haven't people figured out by now that wednesday practices aren't real. they're vet days off
as a tyreek fantasy owner, the guy hasn't seen a wednesday practice literally all year

[Weltall]

Speaking of

https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/s...ScNj4cKg3IEI_w

[Tyche]

So, this was enlightening. Gonna pull some choice quotes that shit on my division rivals.

https://defector.com/which-nfl-playe...th-their-shoes

Several players, including Jets defensive back Bryce Hall, support organizations that appear to be crisis pregnancy centers aimed at steering women away from abortions.

At least eight players listed Christian anti-trafficking organizations as their selected cause. Though anti-trafficking has long been a popular cause for celebrities and athletes to attach themselves to, several organizations chosen by NFL players have seen major scandals this year. Two players, Jets fullback Nick Bawden and Chiefs tight end Matt Bushman, chose organizations tightly linked to Tim Ballard, the celebrity founder of Operation Underground Railroad who has been accused of sexual abuse in several lawsuits.

“The tragic irony is not lost on these five women: that Tim Ballard literally trafficked them for his own sexual and egotistical gratification,”

Reporting by Anna Merlan and Tim Marchman of Vice dating at least as far back as 2020 has made it clear that OUR was, at best, a blundering and sloppy organization that, for example, relied on psychics for intelligence in planning overseas raids.

Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin, who went to Haiti with Ballard in 2018 to “join the search to rescue trafficked children.” Parts of their trip were filmed for an ESPN segment.

Though OUR and SPEAR are justifiably in the headlines right now, at least a half-dozen other NFL players selected Christian anti-trafficking organizations as their cause. Five players are supporting International Justice Mission, long a popular cause among NFL players. The players who wore IJM’s blue cleats are the Patriots’ Matthew Slater and Hunter Henry, the Vikings’ Jordan Hicks, the Bills’ Kingsley Jonathan, and the Steelers’ Alex Highsmith. Titans wideout Nick Westbrook-Ikhine supports a Christian anti-trafficking organization called Destiny Rescue. (Hicks has been out since November with an injury; the Bills had a bye for the first My Cause My Cleats game and listed Jonathan as inactive for the second. You can see Henry’s, Slater’s, and Highsmith’s IJM cleats on their team websites.)