HellDivers2

[Melena]

Supposedly it was supposed to go live day 1, but due to server issues and such, Sony held off.

[Meresgi]

People are up in arms over Sony now requiring you to link your steam account with PSN for the game. Appears the game has been sold in many regions that you can't create a PSN account on, and Sony has stupidly been extremely quiet on how they are going to handle users from those regions.

Yup, clearly some higher up made a decision to show off to shareholders and didn't even run it past anyone for them to say "Uhh....they can't get a PSN in China or other places we sell this game". Reddit is up in arms about it, I understand some of the anger but jesus the subreddit for Helldivers has been unbearable the past couple weeks to the point where I just left. Review bombing the game on steam right now is on going and hopeful that Sony sees this and diverts, a lot of people blaming Arrowhead for this but I think this all would have been different head we needed to link accounts at the start, which was the plan until "technical issues" stopped linking for a bit

[Kachiko]

Yup, clearly some higher up made a decision to show off to shareholders and didn't even run it past anyone for them to say "Uhh....they can't get a PSN in China or other places we sell this game". Reddit is up in arms about it, I understand some of the anger but jesus the subreddit for Helldivers has been unbearable the past couple weeks to the point where I just left. Review bombing the game on steam right now is on going and hopeful that Sony sees this and diverts, a lot of people blaming Arrowhead for this but I think this all would have been different head we needed to link accounts at the start, which was the plan until "technical issues" stopped linking for a bit

No, they ran it past Spitz; he just didn't think it would be a big deal or realize how many countries couldn't get a PSN account.

https://old.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/...scord_updates/

Now he's pushing back hard, if you take him at his discord posts.

[Meresgi]

No, they ran it past Spitz; he just didn't think it would be a big deal or realize how many countries couldn't get a PSN account.

https://old.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/...scord_updates/

Now he's pushing back hard, if you take him at his discord posts.

Ahh, high chance he didn't realize PSN doesn't work in some parts because he wouldn't really need to know that. Sony should be relaying that info down the chain. I've had that happen a lot where some higher up manager makes a decision, gives me only 20% of the info and I later find out that the missing 80% was critical and have to basically be like "Yup well this aint happening now, sorry all".

[Cyn]

Ahh, high chance he didn't realize PSN doesn't work in some parts because he wouldn't really need to know that. Sony should be relaying that info down the chain. I've had that happen a lot where some higher up manager makes a decision, gives me only 20% of the info and I later find out that the missing 80% was critical and have to basically be like "Yup well this aint happening now, sorry all".

Sure, but did you then turn around and say some shit like this to a massive gaming community?



Getting pissy and being rude to your players because they're upset about changes to how they access the game is a really shitty thing for a CM to do.

[Qalbert]

i think it was a but he claimed later that (tone aside) he meant it, that if they wanted Sony to notice that was something they could do

[Cyn]

I think Arrowhead just used the HD1 community to hire community reps, which would have probably been fine if HD2 were only as popular as HD1. I'm sure they have someone with experience approving official messages to the community now, but the shit Spitz says in Discord can be pretty catty and rude.

[Cail]

Steam reviews have pushed it to 'Mixed'

[Tyrath]

Well this is a massive own goal if I ever saw one

[synistar]

Sony shot themselves in the dick - https://twitter.com/PirateSoftware/s...63524575490404

[Kachiko]

Sure, but did you then turn around and say some shit like this to a massive gaming community?



Getting pissy and being rude to your players because they're upset about changes to how they access the game is a really shitty thing for a CM to do.

Except he's 100% right. Shitting on the game in Steam reviews does relatively nothing to Sony, hurts the developing company, and pisses off Steam. If you want make Sony feel some sort of pain, then people would need to do better.

[Meresgi]

Good take.

Also the community manager has made a lot of bad remarks but also not gonna throw him under the bus because his entire role is basically being at the forefront of gamer froth and insane shit all the time. That shit is going to wear on you and you're gonna slip up at times or get angry because you're just a human after all.

Just logged in to see what the daily is and about 200k online right now spread across the zones, but there's also no major order running to. That's lower then usual but also not "ded" as some youtube videos are claiming. Maybe i'm getting too old but the drama mill is crazy lol.

[Zealot]

It's not the first time a game had required a third party login but is it the first time one has not at the start and then added it over a month after release?

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[Meresgi]

It's not the first time a game had required a third party login but is it the first time one has not at the start and then added it over a month after release?

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Not 100% sure but I think so. I mean it was there at release, I remember linking my PSN account when I started playing like day 1 of launch, but then it went away (and honestly since I had already linked it I just figured everyone was and didn't know it had been disabled until reading the info coming out now).

[Meresgi]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/.../full_context/



So this is 100% on Sony and Steam imo. Steam did say PSN was required. Arrowhead disabled this due to server issues and probably threw it on the shelf while working other bugs and fixes until Sony came back wanting this implemented again with a date in mind. Sony and Steam were selling said game to regions without PSN access and it just so happened that the disable of the sync lead people into playing a ton without hitting that wall of "This requires PSN account" immediately to get a refund (Shit shouldn't even be getting sold where it can't be used)

Shitty situation all around but gonna say Arrowhead looks blameless on this beyond the "whoopsy we disabled the sync which lead to this" but thats 20/20 hindsight since the fix made the game actually playable for people back then

[synistar]

And Sony relented

https://twitter.com/PlayStation/stat...31667616829929

[Meresgi]

And Sony relented

https://twitter.com/PlayStation/stat...31667616829929

Just saw that, that's great. Now people need to revert those reviews.

[Prothescar]

Just saw that, that's great. Now people need to revert those reviews.

we all know that prolly wont happen, in fact I expect a lot of people to double down so they don't have to admit how stupid they were to begin w/ and say "WELL ARROWHEAD KNEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN SO THEY SHOULD HAVE STOPPED IT SOONER"

[Meresgi]

we all know that prolly wont happen, in fact I expect a lot of people to double down so they don't have to admit how stupid they were to begin w/ and say "WELL ARROWHEAD KNEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN SO THEY SHOULD HAVE STOPPED IT SOONER"

Oh already hearing that from some people and i'm like "....You knew also if you read the steam page or clicked skip on the account sync prompt etc etc". Arrowhead even put out a notice during the server issues that they were disabling the sync. Half these people want Arrowhead making patch notes only on Reddit because it's their special little haven and where all the "real players" are.

[Lokus]

Even with Sony reversing account linking, there's still a large number of countries that can't buy (and play?) the game anymore months after it was being sold willy nilly on Steam is kind of a shit show.