Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 (PS5, XSX, PC)

[Krandor]

Also I think I know what choice Krandor may be talking about now

If you're talking about the ending you get it's a pretty clear binary choice you'll get presented with.

I didn't think about it too much when it happened but it was an immediate "oh decisions have consequences" right after.

[Jamison]

Speedrun under 2 hours. One of the comments mentions a parry timing mod, but I don't know the details.

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[Tyrath]

If you want the ending right now and you want act 3 story to be difficult, it's probably best to do that immediately after act 2. Doing much of any of the endgame content will trivialize the final story dungeon lol but yeah, you can head right to the final dungeon and end the story as soon as act 3 starts if time allows for ya

Already off on my trip so that wouldn't help. Does finishing the game put you back in the game to do the rest? Otherwise I'd be worried about being unable to go back to finish the rest with the lack of a manual save

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[BWYuko]

https://x.com/expedition33/status/1919701863491838316

[Kirin]

https://x.com/expedition33/status/1919701863491838316

Good. Now lets get cracking on those Lumiere Edition restocks.

[Andalusian girls]

WE'RE BACK FROM DUMBASS WEDDINGS 1000 MILES AWAY GET IT BOYSS

left right at the start of Act 3 so let's run around hittin all these dumbass sidequests lesgooooooooooooooooo

[Koul]

Already off on my trip so that wouldn't help. Does finishing the game put you back in the game to do the rest? Otherwise I'd be worried about being unable to go back to finish the rest with the lack of a manual save

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It puts you back before the final boss. So you can exit at a flag and then do all the end-game content if you'd like.

Ending talk

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Game has definitely stuck with me. It's interesting to see what people's thoughts are between Maelles ending vs Versos. I definitely align more with the Verso ending because yeah it's totally fucked but the actual soul of Verso was just tired of painting for eternity/painted Verso wanted peace and Maelle/Aline had to face reality. But fuck, seeing Lune and Sciel disappear was heart-wrenching and what started to make me cry. People want like a "golden" happy ending for everyone but I think both endings are perfect.

[Krandor]

Ending spoilers

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They're both sad endings but Verso's is definitely what would pass for the good ending. The family finally gets over their shared trauma and moves on vs Maelle/Alicia slowly rotting away in her fantasy while effectively forcing what's left of Verso to be a slave for her amusement.

[Tyrath]

It puts you back before the final boss. So you can exit at a flag and then do all the end-game content if you'd like.

Ending talk

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Game has definitely stuck with me. It's interesting to see what people's thoughts are between Maelles ending vs Versos. I definitely align more with the Verso ending because yeah it's totally fucked but the actual soul of Verso was just tired of painting for eternity/painted Verso wanted peace and Maelle/Aline had to face reality. But fuck, seeing Lune and Sciel disappear was heart-wrenching and what started to make me cry. People want like a "golden" happy ending for everyone but I think both endings are perfect.

Ok that is good to know.

I am so tempted to go forward with the ending. But I am also a little sad that I am most of the way through it already and may just want to prolong it with all the endgame content. I don't care too much if that makes the final boss too easy, not why I play anymore lol

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[Tyrath]

To follow up on that. I think the act 2 twist was fantastic but it's making me sad that I have the answer instead of the mystery the beginning of the game had

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[Tyrath]

Unrelated. A friend of mine who is playing simultaneously. He asked me if I finished Act 2 and I said yeah I'm at the start of act 3. He got mad at that being a spoiler and I was like bro do you know how many numbers "acts" usually have? Dafuq


Edit: Yes I triple posted, sue me. I am drunk and mad I can't keep playing the game.

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[Krandor]

As Koul stated, after you beat the game you load back into the final expedition flag from right before the final boss fight. But the area where you fought them is now empty so you can't re-do the fight to see the alternate ending.

I would recommend talking to your companions in camp and doing their side quests and THEN going to do the final story zone. There are some enemies in those zones that also appear as trash mobs in the final zone, implying that the game expects you do have encountered them before.

There are bits and pieces of additional lore throughout the other endgame zones, but nothing I would consider vitally important from a purely story perspective.

[Andalusian girls]

as the game hasn't been too difficult i've not min-maxed much but went to the tower to test out some builds of my own and was like aight nice, consistent 100k bops for Sciel and Lune without much trouble. then Maelle hit for 400k, then i set up debuffs and amplifiers and she hit for 2.4 million. lmao that chick is truly busted (even without reddit metagaming where she must be obscene)

[Tyrath]

Ok I am back at it diving into Act 3

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I love the "airship" so much. Flying around the world map ahhh, they really knew what the fans wanted

[Tyrath]

Impressed at the amount of new stuff to explore in Act 3 despite being optional

However...

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Sorely disappointed there isn't more to the Flying Casino. I was expecting more minigames

[Tyrath]

Lmao I just broke the damage cap and Maelle casually hitting 100k counters.

[Andalusian girls]

fuck you game dumb game bullshit fuckin game

i watched episode 9 of Andor directly into Clair's ending. it's too much, i am experiencing too many emotions

5/5 mastapiece

[Andalusian girls]

It puts you back before the final boss. So you can exit at a flag and then do all the end-game content if you'd like.

Ending talk

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Game has definitely stuck with me. It's interesting to see what people's thoughts are between Maelles ending vs Versos. I definitely align more with the Verso ending because yeah it's totally fucked but the actual soul of Verso was just tired of painting for eternity/painted Verso wanted peace and Maelle/Aline had to face reality. But fuck, seeing Lune and Sciel disappear was heart-wrenching and what started to make me cry. People want like a "golden" happy ending for everyone but I think both endings are perfect.

Ending spoilers

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They're both sad endings but Verso's is definitely what would pass for the good ending. The family finally gets over their shared trauma and moves on vs Maelle/Alicia slowly rotting away in her fantasy while effectively forcing what's left of Verso to be a slave for her amusement.

endiinggggggg

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i think placing the endings into 'good' and 'bad' is to force a kind of Hollywood or traditional US/Japanese RPG morality onto a game that moves in more subtle strokes.

Kran is absolutely right that the remnant of Verso's soul will be enslaved to keep the canvas world alive, to give Alicia her dream life, to maintain the existences of Lune and Sciel and the others. and an old reconstructed painted Verso playing piano when all he wants to do is die is a kind of double enslavement. very reminiscent of 'The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas' by Le Guin / Star Trek SNW's 'Lift Us Where Suffering Cannot Reach'. is the torture of one entity ever justified for the sake of a thousand others'? utilitarianism vs deontology is a debate as old as ethics.

but conversely painted Verso is robbing all those entities of all their agency. their lives may depend on Verso's soul fragment but do their existences not have meaning for not being 'real'? old Blade Runner/Legion debate of 'does this replicant have a soul?' to say nothing of Alicia being thrust back into the life of disability she desires so deeply to escape. the Descendre family may be saved (debatably given Clea storms off presumably to resume her war), but at the cost of so much life, at the cost of Alicia being shackled within her husk of a body again.

i think what's so engaging is that Alicia's and painted Versos's trauma have left them at opposed ends, with no possible compromise, both willing to violate the agency of people they love to get what they want, and affect what they earnestly think is ethically best. and both paths come with innocents hurt, and loved ones saved. some beautiful stuff. love a game like BG3 but it uh is not moving with this kind of sophistication in its endings.

life keeps forcing cruel choices

[chazzyphizzle]

minor thing but i also enjoyed

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how they paid off esquie saying sciel couldnt swim, oof.

[Drai]

https://x.com/expedition33/status/1920387317002293303


Edit- RIP Billion Damage hits lol