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    Quote Originally Posted by Zetanio View Post
    They don't have any way to enforce anything.

    Let's review:



    So if they rule against the President and compel the US Marshals to enforce their decision. The DoJ head, appointed by the President, tells them to go fuck themselves.
    Dude stop acting like every government agency is 100% filled with Trump loyalist and will never disobey him its fucking embarrassing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrbeansman View Post
    Dude stop acting like every government agency is 100% filled with Trump loyalist and will never disobey him its fucking embarrassing.
    lol

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    Fuck em let it burn the people who let Trump win can't suffer enough.

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    https://x.com/cnnbrk/status/1889390791975408010

    The deal to release Fogel, who was designated as wrongfully detained by the US State Department, was negotiated by President Donald Trump, Special Envoy for the Middle East Steve Witkoff, “and the President’s advisers,” according to a statement from national security adviser Mike Waltz.

    The statement did not provide any details about the “exchange,” other than to say it was “a show of good faith from the Russians and a sign we are moving in the right direction to end the brutal and terrible war in Ukraine.” The National Security Council declined to offer further details.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrbeansman View Post
    Dude stop acting like every government agency is 100% filled with Trump loyalist and will never disobey him its fucking embarrassing.
    Until they show otherwise, all we can do is assume they are trump loyalists.

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    And when she starts getting death threats you arrest him for knowing full well what would happen. Right?

    Fuck this clown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrbeansman View Post
    Fuck em let it burn the people who let Trump win can't suffer enough.
    Pretty sure Palestinians can't vote in our elections. If you're talking about "protest votes" and other shit, again there wasn't enough even if you count them in to have let Kamala win soooooo or we blaming the progressive left for something else now?

    Dude stop acting like every government agency is 100% filled with Trump loyalist and will never disobey him its fucking embarrassing.
    Doesn't need 100% of the government to be sucking on his balls for all this shit to work, because he's abusing the "decorum" rules just like last time. Again it's a lot of "Can he do that?!" and followed by "oh well I guess so cuz no real checks in place lol whoops"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meresgi View Post
    Pretty sure Palestinians can't vote in our elections. If you're talking about "protest votes" and other shit, again there wasn't enough even if you count them in to have let Kamala win soooooo or we blaming the progressive left for something else now?



    Doesn't need 100% of the government to be sucking on his balls for all this shit to work, because he's abusing the "decorum" rules just like last time. Again it's a lot of "Can he do that?!" and followed by "oh well I guess so cuz no real checks in place lol whoops"
    It is an unanswerable question whether the Palestine protest vote was enough to swing the election. It's not just their vote, it's their antagonism to the party in the face of a party that will go even further against their ideals. It's the negative media and attention that influences morale and perception. It's like saying social media doesn't have an influence on people's decisions at the same time there's an entire industry of "influencers" who live off it.

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    Quoting a post I made in a different forum regarding Elon Musk going after agencies:


    Potential major conflict of interests with Elon Musk and his actions towards government agencies have been a recurring concern. The White House chief of staff has been asked if Musk had completed a financial disclosure report, and whether he had received any waivers exempting him from potential penalties for financial entanglements. As a now appointed or affiliated "special government employee", Musk is also subject to strict conflict-of-interest regulations while he retains significant financial interests in private companies that gain from federal government contracts.

    It's important to note that his Starlink company, a satellite internet service provider operated by SpaceX, had been under investigation by USAID to see whether terminals provided to Ukraine were used solely for its intended purpose, and whether exploitation occurred by Russian operatives. Tesla also faces multiple federal investigations that could be affected by DOGE's restructuring and government regulation. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration's probe into Tesla's auto-pilot system identified design flaws that "led to foreseeable misuse and avoidable crashes", in a report linking the technology to 13 fatalities.

    Neuralink, Musk's brain computer chip company, remains under investigation by the FDA and Department of Agriculture over its animal testing practices. There is a heightened risk and concern that Elon may use his new position to personally gain from various agency access & restructuring, and to shield his companies from federal scrutiny. Last weekend, a federal judge blocked DOGE-affiliated employees from accessing a sensitive Department of Treasury payment system that handles 90% of federal payments. In regards to discussing the possible shutter of USAID, another judge has temporarily halted DOGE's move to place thousands of USAID employees on immediate leave -- a decision that would have effectively ended the agency's ongoing investigation into Starlink.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...elon-musk-doge

    https://www.newsweek.com/usaid-elon-...kraine-2027054



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    As much as I love a constitutional crisis, has anyone thought of how this will impact my 401K?

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    the AP has been banned from today’s executive order signings (and likely future ones as well) because they refuse to update their style guide to refer to the gulf of mexico as the gulf of america

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaslo View Post
    I don't think you understand how things work.
    How many of these fuckers are in prison?

    Oh.

    I'm not a lawyer, but if the way things work is "trust the system" ask all the incarcerated black dudes who committed the terrible crime of *checks notes* holding a bag of weed how that's working out for them.

    It's naivete at its finest. I can tell you all day how much the medical system cares but when you see people dying every day how likely are you to believe that?

    You don't live in the reality of everyday people. It's the same shit with the Biden economy. You think because you know better than plebs means you're right. The truth is if you can't convince people things are happening or, in the case of Trump, things happen and then cases are dropped or charges aren't made, do you think they care how you think the system works?

    All they can see is that it doesn't, and it's okay to admit that.

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    Maybe don't expect perfect solutions when we don't live in a perfect world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salodin View Post
    It is an unanswerable question whether the Palestine protest vote was enough to swing the election. It's not just their vote, it's their antagonism to the party in the face of a party that will go even further against their ideals. It's the negative media and attention that influences morale and perception. It's like saying social media doesn't have an influence on people's decisions at the same time there's an entire industry of "influencers" who live off it.

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    If only the Harris campaign could have figured out a way to appease that group then, but it was clearly impossible and they tried so so hard to do it too

    Wasn't the fucking "Hey lets stop the genocide" group of people who ruined her campaign, her campaign did that themselves. And again, they aren't owed the vote they need to earn the vote. If that means working to earn it from that group then work to earn it from that group for christ sake.

    We've now had 3 elections of "you need to vote for us because Orange man bad" and we're 1 out of 3 so maybe they need to have tried a little harder on other fronts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meresgi View Post
    If only the Harris campaign could have figured out a way to appease that group then, but it was clearly impossible and they tried so so hard to do it too

    Wasn't the fucking "Hey lets stop the genocide" group of people who ruined her campaign, her campaign did that themselves. And again, they aren't owed the vote they need to earn the vote. If that means working to earn it from that group then work to earn it from that group for christ sake.

    We've now had 3 elections of "you need to vote for us because Orange man bad" and we're 1 out of 3 so maybe they need to have tried a little harder on other fronts.
    I concur, she wasn't owed their vote. Just like Palestinians aren't owed land the international community won't do anything to help them protect.

    Good luck young Arabs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meresgi View Post
    If only the Harris campaign could have figured out a way to appease that group then, but it was clearly impossible and they tried so so hard to do it too

    Wasn't the fucking "Hey lets stop the genocide" group of people who ruined her campaign, her campaign did that themselves. And again, they aren't owed the vote they need to earn the vote. If that means working to earn it from that group then work to earn it from that group for christ sake.

    We've now had 3 elections of "you need to vote for us because Orange man bad" and we're 1 out of 3 so maybe they need to have tried a little harder on other fronts.
    What was she even supposed to do leftist yap out impossible demands then when they cause the dems to lose blame them for not meeting said impossible demands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaslo View Post
    Actually it's likely a question of whether Contempt of Court can be pardoned by the President.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zetanio View Post
    Let's ask the Supreme Court
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaslo View Post
    You laugh, but I don't see the Supreme Court giving up their only enforcement power for orders to the Executive.
    You say that as if it's never happened man. In the 2 most famous instances of a president defying a court order, the court (SCOTUS ) ACKNOWLEDGED they can do fucking nothing (Worcester and Merryman).

    There were MULTIPLE instances of states and governors defying Brown V Board. Courts, again, ACKNOWLEDGING they can't do a fucking thing, and leaned on the executive to handle enforcement...something they'd never do today. The executive sent the military to handle enforcement.


    What I'm saying is that, for someone who has spoken so much of precedent in this thread, you're missing the mark here.

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    Everyone copes differently

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    Well maybe they should stop expecting perfect solutions

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