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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    The thought that fighting for transgender rights falls into Republican hands is why Trump won. You are the problem dude. Democrats can't fight for what is right from because feckless Democrats like you think it's bad policy. Same shit as abortion messaging. Dems ran from it until they needed it, meanwhile MTG can triple down on racism and get reelected over and over and over and democrats from +20D districts and +10D states are trying to play both sides.

    You're entire post is a fucking joke.
    Dude, what the fuck. Tell me where the fucking lie is on that. I'm fucking terrified for my best friend (transgender) and step sister (lesbian) with this current administration. But in reality, what could she do? She keeps fighting publicly, and Republicans get to play the "see, it's all about identity politics" with them, no matter what they try to do for their constituents, or she does what she said, that she was going to ignore it, focus on the people who voted for her, and pretend it didn't happen and people like you lose their shit.

    Either way she goes, she's going to have the fury of pissed off people, thus being completely stuck in a rock and a hard place.

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    Hell, please tell me how she's supposed to fight this? Republicans have the house, so they can make the rules. You really think any of them are going to break from their overlords? So she can complain and argue about it for the next two years, and nothing gets done, and hope this country gets it's head out of it's fucking ass in the next two years, get democrats control of the house and they can remove that rule.

    If there's any more she can do, please tell me, I'm all ears.

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    They definitely made the correct play. Each office has it's own private bathroom. It was a very obvious trap and not a fight worth taking at this time.

    Also AOC's comments are absolutely correct, were one degree away from genital searches and it is gross.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melena View Post
    Hell, please tell me how she's supposed to fight this? Republicans have the house, so they can make the rules. You really think any of them are going to break from their overlords? So she can complain and argue about it for the next two years, and nothing gets done, and hope this country gets it's head out of it's fucking ass in the next two years, get democrats control of the house and they can remove that rule.

    If there's any more she can do, please tell me, I'm all ears.
    Get dragged out of the bathroom by the Sargent in Arms. Everytime. Stand up for what you believe in,,,what you were literally elected to do.


    She keeps fighting publicly, and Republicans get to play the "see, it's all about identity politics" with them, no matter what they try to do for their constituents, or she does what she said, that she was going to ignore it, focus on the people who voted for her, and pretend it didn't happen and people like you lose their shit.
    "Well, see, she can fight for her ideals and piss or her constituents and capitulate to Republicans. Oh no, what should she do?".

    It's fucking weak. Be more supportive.

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    It's fucking shocking to me that you think the right move is to fold. On a bathroom bill. From the first transgender person in congress. It's really no wonder Dems lost this election. Because you think the party of identity politics will call "identity politics". Feckless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirious View Post
    They definitely made the correct play. Each office has it's own private bathroom. It was a very obvious trap and not a fight worth taking at this time.
    This is the 2024 version of a civil union. The separate but "equal" argument. Transgender people aren't seeking accomodations to placate Republicans. They're looking for equality.

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    Just not a hill worth dying on. They would just have Mace out being the face of women being raped by trans men "pretending" to be women and it's just an absolute nightmare.

    The most important part of any battle is knowing when to fight it, now is not that time.

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    Hilarious that after Trump won, everyone was saying that the Democrats concentrated too much on other fringe shit and not the economy(which I only half agree with) and some of those same people are pissed about a fucking bathroom. Democrats can't even pick battles because people will always be mad about something that didn't go the way they wanted it to and already decide the Democrats lost this one.
    Meanwhile, Republicans will eagerly take it up the ass until till they are told what to be mad at by Fox News and social media

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    Tell the dead transgender kids that it isn't a hill worth dying on.


    We are never winning another fucking election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    Tell the dead transgender kids that it isn't a hill worth dying on.


    We are never winning another fucking election.
    Did someone die because they couldn't use the correct bathroom? I must have missed it.

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    Alternative: McBride gets arrested and misses a key vote that could block a controversial bill.

    idk think about the political calculations of civil disobedience. She has power as an elected rep.

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    Same sex marriage is still nearly a 50/50 issue for Republicans in some polls. Bigoted legislation against trans people is borderline popular and Republicans just spent a campaign cycle whining about trans kids playing sports. I hate it, but this is the current political climate.

    Also, people didn't elect this lady to be the exemplar trans woman in Congress. They elected her to be their rep. It is up to her how she thinks she can best do that. You have spent more words on her decision than the shitty people who put her in that situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    Tell the dead transgender kids that it isn't a hill worth dying on.


    We are never winning another fucking election.
    Btw, this is the same energy that the other side had when a Venezuelan guy murdered a white girl.

    Yes, its sad when bad things happen. We definitely need to protect anyone from getting hurt. But also, give me a fucking break bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimmauk View Post
    Did someone die because they couldn't use the correct bathroom? I must have missed it.
    Yes.

    You're also completely ignoring the devastating mental health impacts of these policies. You guys are looking at a singular policy in a vacuum. I am not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    . You have spent more words on her decision than the shitty people who put her in that situation.
    Those shitty people don't care. Why should I waste my energy telling these people who are getting every policy wish they want passed that they are wrong.

    The energy it takes to convince someone they're wrong is orders of magnitude more difficult than just feeding them bullshit. Why am I wasting my time bitching about Republicans being wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimmauk View Post
    Btw, this is the same energy that the other side had when a Venezuelan guy murdered a white girl.

    Yes, its sad when bad things happen. We definitely need to protect anyone from getting hurt. But also, give me a fucking break bro
    The other side that just ran roughshod all over Dems? Yeah, I'll take that energy.

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    These posts are so fucking weak.

    I hate it, but this is the current political climate
    yes, it's sad when bad things happen
    just not a hill worth dying on
    how is she suppose to fight this?
    Sounds like a party ready to win an election. Again, feckless. Zero dawg in em.

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    You're too close to it. Emotionally invested, inside looking out. We're outside looking in. See the bigger picture.

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    I'm not saying I disagree with Tyche, except that I'm extremely loathe to tell a trans woman how she should deal with anti-trans bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirious View Post
    You're too close to it. Emotionally invested, inside looking out. We're outside looking in. See the bigger picture.
    What? Come on now. That's just fucking ridiculous of you to say. I have transgender patients and this is no different than telling a black congressperson they have to use the white bathrooms.

    Really.

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