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  1. #21
    Chram
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    I'd be interested in what the actual floor is.
    SE told us in one of their patch notes, Sep. 11, 2017 I think?

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/t...l=1#post600427

    the wording is goofy. I think it's probably 1 in 5 (20% loss chance) is the lowest you can go.

    I suspect the reason we have access to more is either for materials that don't have the base 50% or so that you don't have to get *all* of it... (?)

  2. #22
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    Lakshmi
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    Nice memory! I had forgotten that note.

    To continue the above sample from the 23rd, I did about 13k card desynths spread across nq/hq crystals, and it looks like the HQ crystal's effect on loss rate is holding strong at -10%.

    Gear: Patissiere's Ring, Artificer's Ring, Elemental Moghancement (lightning or wind as appropriate), T3 shield for speed, Kitron Macaron, Ionis

    HQ Crystal (2815 synths):
    Break - 1283 (45.5%)
    Loss - 331 (25.8%)
    NQ - 583 (38.1%)
    HQ - 949 (61.9%)
    HQ1 - 424 (27.7%)
    HQ2 - 333 (21.7%)
    HQ3 - 162 (10.6%)


    NQ Crystal (10330 synths):
    Break - 4761 (46.1%)
    Loss - 1708 (35.9%)
    NQ - 2304 (41.4%)
    HQ - 3265 (58.6%)
    HQ1 - 1584 (28.4%)
    HQ2 - 1125 (20.2%)
    HQ3 - 556 (10.0%)


    So yes, it appears the HQ crystal is -10% loss rate. That is probably worth it for the new HQ cards.

    I think Ionis is -5% break rate and maybe -4% loss rate. I'd rather it be -5% for both, but all my samples so far have been -4% loss rate and I can only bend so far for parsimony.

    Break rate: 60% base
    Artificer's Ring: -1% break rate
    Kitron w/ Patissiere's: -8% break rate
    Ionis: -5%
    Total: 46% Break rate

    Loss rate: 50% base
    Elemental Moghancement: -10% loss rate
    HQ crystal: -10% loss rate
    Ionis: -4%
    Total: 36% loss rate with NQ crystals, 26% with HQ crystals

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