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    I have a genuine question and if someone could direct me to a technical article or video, it'd be great...

    How will the next administration move to ensure network security? It would make a great darknet diaries episode.

    Ideally, you'd want to do the impossible. Rebuild it all from a the ground up, but migration would be impossible. Like, there's fucking kids accessing this shit without seemingly much oversight, kids I'm sure able to plant shit that would be very difficult to find.

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    Jack runs in my circle, I think I'm going to run into him in two weeks. I could see if he knows if you're curious. Finally got to meet him when my buddy was interviewed for breaking up the bike theft ring the episode before last. I honestly don't think the kids rooting around in the systems have much knowledge to be planting anything. They left the fucking doge website vulnerable to uploads for christsakes. I think if we somehow make it out of this, a lot of rebuilding from the ground up is going to be happening, but I think the system is built in COBOL? Good luck migrating that ancient shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitarman View Post
    but I think the system is built in COBOL? Good luck migrating that ancient shit.
    COBOL and Fortran. IRS backend is sitll running COBOL shit and so was library of congress at least when I was going to school in 2014-2015 era and my teacher worked there, no way that's been updated so safe bet. We have a shit ton of missions at NASA running shit on fortran still.

    It seems to me these guys working for Musk currently are skiddies and don't know shit beyond writing some basic code or playing with AI and sucking off Musk to get the jobs. Musk himself doesn't understand any of this shit either but loves to pretend he does. That said, someone who actually KNOWS something, or Russia just telling Musk to hire a few devs they know can do horrible shit is a very real threat because it's not like these fuckers need a clearance or anything to be touching these systems which is wild.

    I would say it would need to be rebuilt but I don't think that's likely either, these agencies are getting gutted hardcore...and if they seek outside help from contractors we're just going to get shit work like Obamacare website and other avenues like that for years...even if they wanted to fix it which isn't likely either. IRS just goes with "well it works", they have floated out bids on rebuilding the system to certain contractor groups but all the bids were way too high (friend's mom used to work overseeing bids for IRS projects and other stuff and was telling me about it recently) so it's just stayed how it is. Pretty typical in IT sector because "it just works, why pay to upgrade!? And why do we even have IT staff if it's working?" and "Oh no it stopped working suddenly, what do you even do here?!" go hand in hand

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meresgi View Post
    COBOL and Fortran.
    Good lord Fortran. It says something when my degree program mentioned it once in passing then never spoke of it again.

    Pretty typical in IT sector because "it just works, why pay to upgrade!? And why do we even have IT staff if it's working?" and "Oh no it stopped working suddenly, what do you even do here?!" go hand in hand
    If I was warned that IT is seen as a cost center, and your role boils down to:

    everything is working fine: "why do we pay you?!"
    something goes wrong" "why do we pay you?!"

    I would've went into healthcare. At least i'd be trained on how to deal with psychopaths.

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    Yeah, I think the hypothetical of government netsec after potential foreign access and malware from a previous administration sounds like it would be a fucking nightmare.

    Even if these kids can't write code, Russians can, and Russians tend to manipulate young males quite well. This whole thing sounds like the worst kind of social engineering nightmare.

    It sounds like a Darknet episode. Let me know when it airs.

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    There were some things started under Obama that were net good for govtech, like 18F.

    Also, healthcare.gov v2 was functional and the saga is generally emblematic of our govtech problems. v1 didn't scale, which is common in tech products, but we accept a zero percent failure rate for government services so instead of the v2 W everyone remembers the v1 L. This is why all that shit is still in Fortran. Any behavior change is a regression, so we are going to port it from Fortran to rust? Gfl

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    That is in some ways the tragedy of Musk's approach to breaking every government agency. If you said "yo, we are going to maybe break everything but then it will work and be better" because you hired the right people to modernize it, that would be one thing, but he is saying "yo we aren't competent enough to realize we are going to maybe break everything and have no plans to fix it."

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    It would also be different if he knew anything about civics and how anything works but that would require him to understand anything above a fourth grade level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    but he is saying "yo we aren't competent enough to realize we are going to maybe break everything and have no plans to fix it."
    It's the Republican Way.

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    rfk said in his presser today that girls are reaching puberty six years earlier than historical data

    now im sure a lot of republican men would probably believe/root for that, but that has to be one of the dumbest things i have ever heard

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    They're hitting it earlier, maybe, but 6 years is a lot. Also there's so much more fat in their diet that their breasts are breasting earlier but idk if you can say that's cause they're hitting puberty earlier or just that pedis are noticing those mosquito bites earlier. Starving girls aren't exactly well endowed like our big back girls.

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    Yes officer, this post right here.

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    the only thing ive ever heard is that children might historically enter/exit puberty :slightly: faster due to better nutrition

    but six years? cman. without looking into it id assume its more like six months but the brain worm fucked up (or, of course, like everyone else in the Trump administration, he is exaggerating/lying on purpose to get what he wants)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mertron View Post
    rfk said in his presser today that girls are reaching puberty six years earlier than historical data

    now im sure a lot of republican men would probably believe/root for that, but that has to be one of the dumbest things i have ever heard
    https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-h...ts-should-know


    Does he understand months are not years?

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    i don't like this thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mertron View Post
    the only thing ive ever heard is that children might historically enter/exit puberty :slightly: faster due to better nutrition

    but six years? cman. without looking into it id assume its more like six months but the brain worm fucked up (or, of course, like everyone else in the Trump administration, he is exaggerating/lying on purpose to get what he wants)
    So 3? Average age is like 9-12 for first stage.

    God I fucking hate this guy.

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    There's always outliers but 9ish is about right. That's when these damn kids start talking about dating and the other sex and it's so annoying hearing kids talk about this stuff.

    Perfectly normal but Mr. Salodin doesn't wanna hear it jfc

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    Yeah first period is certainly earlier than 100+ years ago and it's directly related to kids not starving now.

    6 years is hilarious though lol

    From school parents the earliest I've heard is 9, not sure how late girls are starting but 12 sounds reasonable.

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    The question will be if he emulates Trump and doubles down on his 6 years flub lol

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