Month Eight: Crashing Out Over A Podcaster

[6souls]

He could actually have some longevity well past Trump.

So he's another Mitch McConnell?

[Tyrath]

Johnson is smart and pragmatic though. Far and away the best leader they've had in decades. He could actually have some longevity well past Trump.

I guess it depends on what you consider the metrics of his success? He has been incredible in making the Senate ineffectual outside of passing tax cuts for the rich.

[Tyche]

So he's another Mitch McConnell?

1000%. Politically savvy and great at his job. Except Johnson is more pliable to the moment than McConnell who is retiring and no longer gives a fuck. Never saw Johnson as MAGA as much as an opportunist.

[Tyche]

I guess it depends on what you consider the metrics of his success? He has been incredible in making the Senate ineffectual outside of passing tax cuts for the rich.

Its not an opinion. Remember who preceded him? McCarthy (legitimately high-school intelligence per his colleagues.) Boehner (couldn't even pass a less controversial CR with a bigger margin). Ryan (couldn't hold shit together through Trump's first term investigations).

Johnson has done more, with far tighter margins, than anyone this century.

[kuronosan]

Yeah I don't think this is true.

It's in response to some senior officials questioning the legality of the strikes we've been doing on drug boats.

Oh, okay, so war crimes.

[kuronosan]

Also Johnson hasn't done shit, everything that's happened is in spite of him not because of him.

[Tyche]

It's def been because of him. Not one of those others would be getting 2 clean CRs (3 now?) and a highly controversial bill slashing hundreds of millions from Medicaid with a 5 seat majority. I'm not saying he's doing good work, I'm saying he's been very good at working. Yeah, the Epstein bill got away, but that's almost entirely on Trump for pissing off MTG when she wanted to run for Senate and getting upset with Massie for being too fiscally conservative and voting against the big beautiful bill. I'd imagine Mace was locked in from her history of sex abuse. I think the only one he even had a chance of turning was Boebert.

Stories about the Freedom Caucus fighting with moderates are rare today. They used to be a weekly story. Johnson gets credit for that. He's held that slim majority together more than either of those other 3 could.

[Tyrath]

Thats...because the moderates are all gone. Jfc.

[Tyche]

If you're going to use hyperbole to attempt to win an argument, then I don't know what to say. If you truly believe you cannot find 5 moderates in that caucus, give me a fucking break. Furthermore, the freedom caucus has 31 members. We're talking 5 seat margin.

And let's assume your factually wrong comment were true, it still makes you wrong because most of these battles comes down to how much is added to the deficit as to if the freedom caucus would support. They literally refused to support the initial Senate bill because how much it added to the deficit.

The central flank is the least of the worries during this fights.

[Tyche]

The reason McCarthy, Boehner, and Ryan failed is because they failed to keep bold of the right flank, not the moderates.

Johnson has had little issue getting the Freedom Caucus to support deficit adding measures. I wouldn't have imagined pointing out his effectiveness thus far was even controversial.

[Xno Kappa]

Dude has that aww’shucks face that’s threatening to no one while spewing enough word salad to sound pragmatic to Billy Bob and Mary Sue.

[Tyrath]

If you're going to use hyperbole to attempt to win an argument, then I don't know what to say. If you truly believe you cannot find 5 moderates in that caucus, give me a fucking break. Furthermore, the freedom caucus has 31 members. We're talking 5 seat margin.

And let's assume your factually wrong comment were true, it still makes you wrong because most of these battles comes down to how much is added to the deficit as to if the freedom caucus would support. They literally refused to support the initial Senate bill because how much it added to the deficit.

The central flank is the least of the worries during this fights.

Moderates who roll over for the fascist and do his bidding 99% of the time are not moderates anymore. They are far right

Claiming there are any moderates left in the modern GOP is laughable.

[Tyche]

Dude has that aww’shucks face that’s threatening to no one while spewing enough word salad to sound pragmatic to Billy Bob and Mary Sue.

Straight out of the McConnell and Pelosi playbook.

[Outlaw]

Is it 25th time yet?

[kuronosan]

Well past that dude

[Tyrath]

What did he do/say now?

[Karbuncle]

What did he do/say now?

Idk, have we posted the unhinged truth social farts where he called the video of those Dem Veterans urging Military personnel to disobey "Illegal Orders" and above all else uphold the US Constitution (In context to bombing random boats in international waters), "Seditious Treason punishable by Death"? Later quote tweeting/truthing a few things like "Hang them all its what George Washington would do" and stuff.

[Tyrath]

Ah yes, I was wondering if there was something more. I know that's bad enough already but there's no bottom here

[Qalbert]

I saw a thing earlier about how "Quiet, Piggy" should be the last straw and my thought was just 'that's not even the most unhinged thing he's said today'

[Tymon]

Something something mumble grumble he says it like it is and that's enough for me