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    It's because 15% is the cap. It's all he has right now. He can't implement 232 arbitrarily or he would have already. If he felt he could continue to do whatever the fuck he wants without enforcement, why isn't he doing whatever the fuck he wants and just keeping the IEEPA tarrifs in place? Why's he so pissed off? Him continuing to get the revenue at 2025 levels will require congressional approval, which he will not get. He will have Lutnick run out shady investigations and attempt to use section 232 to achieve his policy goals, but that's going to require time, red tape, and not have the extensive, broad effects of IEEPA tarrifs. But he will try. Because He and Lutnick stand to make a fucking boatload of money because Lutnicks sons run the largest company buying up potential tarrif settlements from struggling businesses so they can get a fraction of the refund, as they can't afford to litigate refunds. They're essentially going to struggling businesses and saying "Instead of fighting for refunds for years, I'll give you a fraction of what you're owed now so you can stay afloat, for the rights to any future settlement funds that we will litigate on your behalf". So Lutnick will exploit them. Then Trump will settle before he leaves office, and Lutnicks company will make billions.

    The tarrifs aren't the story. It's the corruption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuronosan View Post
    Whether that's legal, illegal, will bite them in the ass in the future, won't, is all irrelevant. It's hurting people now.
    You're a fucking bitch you're basically telling people to just shut up and wait to die. Bad things are still gonna happen? No shit Sherlock people were doomed to suffer the minute the working class decided that "just getting by" was justification for voting in citrus Hitler. People out here fighting back and all you can do is minimize because you're too fucking retarded to understand that courts can't save everyone. But hey I guess if you can't instantly end all suffering why try right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrbeansman View Post
    You're a fucking bitch you're basically telling people to just shut up and wait to die...People out here fighting back and all you can do is minimize because you're too fucking retarded to understand that courts can't save everyone
    lol dude said that the courts ruling on shit doesn't mean anything because no one is enforcing it, not that actually standing up is bad. The court ruling doesn't mean shit if people don't stand up, that's completely different then people actually fighting back elsewhere against ICE via protests/black panthers/etc. The tariff shit is hurting people right now this second as well as deportations. Congress sure as shit isn't gonna do anything about the tariffs, most of them are making bank on it anyways and even if there were refunds only the corporations would see that and then just keep prices the same, and we have most of congress either totally onboard or being all frowny face over it as Dem Governors and Mayors urge the people to just "follow the rules and don't act out, we don't want to anger ICE".

    Don't think Kuro is saying it's hopeless, but when elected members are doing jack shit and actively trying to "centrist" all of this shit while at the same time bowing down to Israel then thinking the courts ruling is anything beyond lip service is comical. Hopefully i'm wrong and this will provide ammo to someone to use but I highly doubt it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrbeansman View Post
    You're a fucking bitch you're basically telling people to just shut up and wait to die.
    "Let the courts cook" is the equivalent of telling people to shut up and wait to die. "Stop dooming and glooming" carries that same message.

    Bad things are still gonna happen? No shit Sherlock people were doomed to suffer the minute the working class decided that "just getting by" was justification for voting in citrus Hitler.
    Right.

    people out here fighting back and all you can do is minimize because you're too fucking retarded to understand that courts can't save everyone.
    I am?

    Beans. I just watched a woman in her 30s die from an irreversible illness and there was fuck all I could do. That is my life every day and month. Do you really, really think I don't understand that there's only so much that can be done?

    hey I guess if you can't instantly end all suffering why try right?
    I stare people in the eyes all day wishing I could instantly fix their problems and instead have to stress the importance of progression.

    Maybe your rant would have been more on point if it made a point, but it didn't. In my world, it would be like telling a patient "hey sorry your insurance said no but just wait for the prior authorization and in the meantime sorry things are getting worse" and rather than calling the insurance company myself, which I do every time, I just tell them to let it play out. Meanwhile, their life falls apart around them while my nurses are saying "hey doctor, maybe you shouldn't rely on the process playing out because things are looking pretty bad".

    Except instead of caring and empathizing, I go "STOP FUCKING DOOMING AND GLOOMING RETARDS GOSH CAN'T YOU SEE THE INSURANCE COMPANY PAID FOR ONE VISIT IT WILL WORK EVEN IF IT ISN'T WORKING NOW GOD YOU'RE SO RETARDED".

    Do you see what I mean now?

    I am far from hopeless. I see a lot of shit every day that crushes most people. Just because I know how the system fucks people and I'm skeptical of it doesn't mean I think the world is ending.

    But I sure as hell would contribute to that if I sat back and said nothing at all, which is the equivalent of what you do when you laud the courts as infallible.

    If I tell an insurance company to pay for something and they refuse, my holding them accountable doesn't stop or my patient dies.

    So please, in all seriousness, don't come at me like that. I know exactly what it feels like to deal with a system that ignores things at the expense of others despite "assurances they will do the right thing".

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    janitor problems, amirite

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    Meanwhile, here's Pete Hegseth having a party for a 315 lbs bench press.

    https://x.com/clashreport/status/202...184729737?s=46

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    I'd have a party if I ever put up 315

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obsidian View Post
    Meanwhile, here's Pete Hegseth having a party for a 315 lbs bench press.

    https://x.com/clashreport/status/202...184729737?s=46
    Looks legit, not sure why he's using 45lb bumper plates but still 45lbs

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    315 is pretty good though for someone 45yrs old and an alcoholic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
    I'd have a party if I ever put up 315

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    For one rep I bet you could struggle through it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obsidian View Post
    For one rep I bet you could struggle through it.
    This is a pretty huge overstatement if you aren’t actively doing strength training lol

    I guarantee you the vast majority of adult men could not bench 315 even once no matter the effort

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    A quick Google search says less than 1% of the population is capable of a 315lb bench and among active training weightlifters it is a top ten percentage lift

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obsidian View Post
    For one rep I bet you could struggle through it.
    lol...no.

    225 is very obtainable, 315 is a hallmark for high level powerlifting and most average gym goers are not going to get close to that.



    The way Hesgeth is benching that too is a very good arch, he's not super over exaggerated like a lot of bench press where bar path is like 2 inches total and they bounce it off their chest like a spring board. Showed good control, he's a monster of a person but good lift

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obsidian View Post
    For one rep I bet you could struggle through it.
    My 1RM peak 17 years ago was 265.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tymon View Post
    This is a pretty huge overstatement if you aren’t actively doing strength training lol

    I guarantee you the vast majority of adult men could not bench 315 even once no matter the effort
    I thought he was fairly active but apparently not.

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    When I got off chemo as a teenager I had to bench the bar for nearly a year. My 1RM ended up at 225. I regret falling off the wagon.

    Never too late though. As I sit at a bar not doing shit about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meresgi View Post
    lol...no.

    225 is very obtainable, 315 is a hallmark for high level powerlifting and most average gym goers are not going to get close to that.



    The way Hesgeth is benching that too is a very good arch, he's not super over exaggerated like a lot of bench press where bar path is like 2 inches total and they bounce it off their chest like a spring board. Showed good control, he's a monster of a person but good lift
    For me the funniest part is that he can do this but he can’t even do a single full pull up lol

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    Pull ups are a completely different animal to be totally fair, way more back. I don't know what my 1RM is for bench right now but on strong days I hit 280 for 5, I squat 325 (weighing ~200 right now) for 5-8 and my deadlift was around 430 before I started having this hip issue.

    Which is all to say that was my starting point when I started working on pull-ups last year and I could only do 3, lol. Up to 10 now. I hate pull-ups.

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    Benching 315 and not being able to do 1 pullup, when you aren't a big fat guy is crazy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tymon View Post
    For me the funniest part is that he can do this but he can’t even do a single full pull up lol
    Is pretty funny but he's a powerlifter and pull ups are def not part of that world, can do lat development elsewhere. Not sure how heavy he is too but I know at 240 with pretty good strength I can only knock out like 4 unassisted pull-ups. Also different planes of movement, overhead press would be slightly more equivalent though dude like him is probably log pressing a shit ton too

    Benching 315 and not being able to do 1 pullup, when you aren't a big fat guy is crazy
    Hoping to hit 315 by summer. Can rep out 10 at 245 with a spotter but mostly just training with smith machine.

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    They're more of a row than a press IMO but even still it's a completely different movement. I'm not surprised he can ego 315 for one but not get his head over the bar.

    Hoping to hit 315 by summer. Can rep out 10 at 245 with a spotter but mostly just training with smith machine.
    You can do it homie. I was working toward 500 on my deadlift but I'm losing progress weekly with this hip/groin issue.

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