Month Thirteen: Oil Barons | Dad, How Did You Meet Mom? | Barack Hussein Obama

[Yabby]

It’s not just that one post, it’s the pattern. Every post is the same kind of pointless bitching. At this point, he’d be more useful to the world as a stain on his father’s sock.

[6souls]

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/midd...nker-contract/

The Pentagon is shopping around for contractors who can provide bunker prefabs that can be shipped within 3, 15, or 30 days for troops serving in the Middle East.

[Sirious]

Pretending youre accomplishing something is worse than doing nothing

Big participation trophy energy.

[Richybear]

Big "i wish I was spicyryan" edgy energy

[Tymon]

He's not entirely wrong, protesting without occupying is just a parade.

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I both agree and disagree.

I went to my local one today and I view the upside to be the same thing as when people start crying about people venting and "dooming" on BG.

You get out, you let your voice be heard among like minded people. Maybe make some friends. Maybe you just needed a reminder that you aren't alone in how you feel about these things. It's good for that. It's especially good for that for people who live as a political minority where they are. Not everybody has the luxury of being insulated and surrounded by politically like minded people all the time.

[Obsidian]

What I do find funny is half the people at these rallies are still not going to vote in the next general election because the Democratic nominee uses the wrong brand of Kleenex or something.

[Meresgi]

What I do find funny is half the people at these rallies are still not going to vote in the next general election because the Democratic nominee uses the wrong brand of Kleenex or something.

Or supports Israel doing a genocide and wants stronger immigration laws and sucks off Ben Shapiro and others to try to "cross the aisle", but probably the Kleenex thing. Isn't Kleenex like Band Aid though and a brand name used as the product go to name? Guess people say "tissues" far more then "adhesive medical strip" or whatever.

[Qalbert]

a plaster

[Tymon]

That is the biggest problem with the election cycle in the US. It's obviously the elephant in the room.

There's no denying it. A relevant amount of Dem voters will stay home if the candidate isn't to their liking.

Meanwhile, 99.9999999999% of GOP voters will vote for anyone with an R next to their name. They are going to vote come hell or high water, and they're going to vote red until they day they die. Policy, candidate, scandal, gaffe... doesn't matter. At the end of the day the question is - "are you gonna vote Dem then?" and the answer is no.

Despite this, with even moderate turnout, Dems win. So...

[Tymon]

There is a list as long as a CVS receipt of GOP people bitching about a billion different issues that Trump and MAGA have pissed them off about. Ruined their lives even.

They will wax poetic about this stuff. Numerous paragraphs on social media. But you know what's the constant? At the end of their long winded rants, they always be sure to leave in a little quip. Where they say "I am still behind you," or "I will still vote for you no matter what."

Meaning it's all performative. Trump can look them in the eye and spit in their face, kill their family and call them a bitch. They'll still line up at the polls and walk away grumbling saying "Well I mean them god damn Democrats would be worse so..."

What can you even do about that?

Nothing. You can't do anything. So you have to ignore all of those people completely, right?

I'd say so. Gotta just focus on getting out the vote on everyone left. Beg them to vote. Do everything you can to get them to the polls.

[Tyrath]

What I do find funny is half the people at these rallies are still not going to vote in the next general election because the Democratic nominee uses the wrong brand of Kleenex or something.

And how did you come up with that 50% number??

[Tyrath]

Pretending youre accomplishing something is worse than doing nothing

I mean if you shut the fuck up for a moment and went to one, you'd potentially hear about what they are trying to accomplish.

You have 0 ideas or plans other than "i would join the fascists to save myself" so go fuck yourself.

[Obsidian]

And how did you come up with that 50% number??

I pulled it out of my ass. But considering a third of the country didn't vote at all and another third of the country struggled to hold their nose to vote for Kamala (and lost), I'm not sure the number I pulled out of my ass is necessarily the issue you ought to be honing in on.

If protests counted as results, Dems would be kings of the world. Right now it's very easy for "the left" to rally against what they don't want. When election time rolls around they have much less success aligning on what they *do* want, and even less success preventing what they all already agreed they absolutely don't want.

[Mrbeansman]

What can you even do about that?

Nothing. You can't do anything. So you have to ignore all of those people completely, right?

I'd say so. Gotta just focus on getting out the vote on everyone left. Beg them to vote. Do everything you can to get them to the polls.

The correct thing to do is put these people in camps since you ask.

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[Byrthnoth]

tbf that's a bit of a silly assertion

the relatively small number of people protesting 8 months before a midterms are the hyperengaged voters that will vote anyway

the people that see it on TV and say, "eh lol protesting is useless" are the ones that may vote democrat or stay home

[Tyrath]

^ pretty much why I was asking. I don't think the people going to protests are the ones that are gonna go ehhhh when its election time

[Tyche]

Democrats are historically unpopular while polling +12 over Harris. Democrats do not care about candidate quality right now. Same arguments were made, on this forum, at this time, in 2018. Democrats had highest turnout in a midterm since the 80s in 2018. This came in spite of unprecedented wiping of the voter rolls.

Democrats will have another record turnout. The landscape for voter engagement now is so much more ripe this time around versus 2018.

Candidate quality isn't going to mean shit since the bar for the presidency is set so much lower than that. This isn't a 'vote for Democrats' election. It's a hate vote election. Embrace it, Republicans have been fucking over Dems for decades through hate votes, as the last page has liked to point out their effective way to coalesce.

I don't know why people say "you're not voting for her because you like her, your voting against him because you hate him" and use that as some sort of negative, as if an entire party wasn't elected on that platform.

[Qalbert]

right, like in an ideal world the system SHOULDN'T be vote for the least bad of two candidates, but it is, and not participating because of it only helps the worse candidate

[Tyche]

These are the candidates that will be facing off against generic Democrat, because this is the shit Trump makes them say for an endorsement.

This is definitively not a candidate quality election.

[Tyche]

That dude is taking Mitch McConnell's seat btw.